Spence vs Crawford or AJ vs Wilder

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by jmashyaka, Jun 11, 2018.


If you could only have one, which would it be?

  1. AJ vs Wilder

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  2. Spence vs Crawford

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    34.8%
  1. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua - Wilder by far, I know this seems casual by I am not interested in Spence vs Crawford that much yet, one guy has only beaten a drained Kell Brook and was arguably losing the fight, the other guy just moved up and beat a bum, once they beat thurmans, porters, Garcias... their fight will be a lot more interesting for me.

    Wilder vs Joshua... it's heavyweight, a heavyweight unification cannot be topped, skillwise Crawford vs Spence by far but in terms of importance and anticipation Wilder vs Josh by far
     
  2. Gomo

    Gomo Active Member Full Member

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    AJ vs Wilder

    Heavyweight will always interest me more than any other division

    I dont know why but it just does, id rather watch whyte parker than crawford spence.

    Only other fight i really want to see outside the heavyweights, as in i would happily pay to watch it is Golovkin vs BJJ
     
  3. Sandman_

    Sandman_ Undisputed Full Member

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    Spence v Crawford is the better fight b/c it's unclear who will win.

    I think the winner of AJ v Wilder is a foregone conclusion in the UK. I don't regard the winner of AJ v Wilder as "undisputed" champ either.

    More like unified alphabet champ.

    You need the lineal heavyweight championship to be "undisputed".
     
  4. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What about if the lineal champ is a fat cokehead who barely fights, I don’t give a damn about lineal champs unless they are active. Most people don’t think of Stevenson as the true champ any more coz he rarely fights
     
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  5. Sandman_

    Sandman_ Undisputed Full Member

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    You either recognise the lineal champ or you don't. In the heavyweight division, I do.

    I don't think "lineal" has much meaning in any of the other weight divisions any more.

    I think it's still relevant at heavyweight which is why I won't regard the winner of Joshua v Wilder as "undisputed".

    You're not "undisputed" if there's another guy out there with a legitimate claim to the crown (which, like it or not, Fury clearly has).
     
  6. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fair enough you can recognise it if you want to me it’s meaningless unless the guy is active and defending it. Imagine if Seferi beat him the other day you are telling me the AJ/Wilder wins are paper champs and they have to beat Serefi first , that’s a joke.
     
  7. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Spence and Crawford is the much better fight, more talent, skill etc but it' the heavyweights man....got to go with Wilder v AJ
     
  8. BigBone

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    AJ-Wild is heading toward catastrophic disappointment, mark my words / bookmark this post. An epic lead-up will be followed by AJ/Parker II, perhaps Haye/Wlad II if we are lucky, where two punchers are so aware of their defensive deficiencies they'll play it safe and blame the judges afterwards depending on hoe loses.

    I don't even wanna hear Crawford and Spence open their mouth when the idea of this fight is so mouthwatering. Both r high intensity pressing fighters, don't mistake Bud taking a back foot as not working his (and ur) ass off, throwing angles, traps and hard shots, and he's equally busy moving forward.

    Spence is even more action friendly with his highly skilled approach & this is exactly the fight where both wanna show early who's da boss, and not let that other ass*hole dictate terms. This is like like having the sex of your life on Christmas Eve which happens to be your birthday, smoking the best A-side meth your cousin brought from Thailand, along with that tranny hooker bouncing on your cokk. Or something of similar caliber.
     
  9. Sandman_

    Sandman_ Undisputed Full Member

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    Seferi didn't win. As an opponent, he's no different from Joe Louis' "bum of the month" club.

    A bigger joke is sanctioning bodies recognising guys like Charles Martin & Bermane Stiverne as world heavyweight champions. And that isn't hypothetically speaking. It happened.

    Those guys are alphabet heavyweight champions. Not genuine rulers of the heavyweight division.

    If you don't take a principled stance, that's where you end up.

    I'm happy to recognise the winner of Joshua v Wilder as the best active heavyweight out there.

    Just don't tell me (like the ring announcer & commentators will) that the winner is "undisputed" heavyweight champion when there's another guy out there with a legitimate claim.
     
  10. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    And he reinforced that claim on Saturday with the demolition of an Albanian legend.

    cough.
     
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  11. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Okay I guess if you think Fury is some champ then fair enough. To me he got stripped for failing to defend his titles and take on his mandatories and that’s that.
     
  12. Sandman_

    Sandman_ Undisputed Full Member

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    If you want to recognise whoever the alphabet organisations tell you is champ, good for you.

    When one of them decides to strip Joshua or Wilder for refusing to defend against Kubrat Whathisname or for some other piddling reason, I'm sure you will welcome the crowning of a new champ.

    From my perspective, the winner of Joshua v Wilder will be in exactly the same situation as Mike Tyson was 30 years ago - unified alphabet champ, not undisputed champ.

    Tyson had the good sense to face Spinks to claim the lineal championship & his historical legacy is all the better for it. The winner of Joshua v Wilder would do well to do the same.
     
  13. BrainyBoxer

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    Joshua vs. Wilder would be the more entertaining fight especially the build up. Can you imagine build up between Spence and Crawford
     
  14. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    The heavyweight division is the only title that really matters

    The heavyweight champ is the baddest man on the planet

    Being p4p no 1 is like saying your a great fighter for a midget, isn't really that great of an accolade IMO, not compared with being the heavyweight champion.

    Being p4p no1 and the heavyweight champion would be great though......
     
  15. DoubleJ

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    I see Spence and Crawford as a close fight. Spence is the legitimate favorite, but the action will be furious while it lasts.

    AJ is head and shoulders above Wilder, who makes amateurish mistakes. The hype will be bigger, but I see this as a pretty solid mismatch. AJ is bigger, stronger, has better technique and has fought better opposition. Wilder is....?