Sprts Network and the WBO ?

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  1. Claypole

    Claypole Boxing Addict banned

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    No, no, no. It was JCC that asked the question.
     
    Claypole, Jun 24, 2008
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  2. BIG WORM

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    yea i know m8.
     
    BIG WORM, Jun 24, 2008
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  3. mike464

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    :good It matters about as much as the other Micky Mouse belts out there.
     
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  4. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Has anyone got a copy of this month's boxing monthly?

    it has a quick two page spread on alphabet rankings, and how much of a nonsense they are, and there is a photo of RJJ with allsorts of trinkets - the IBA, WBF, IBO, WBC & WBA
     
    Beeston Brawler, Jun 25, 2008
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  5. alba

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    it is one of the newer of the sanctioning bodies is it not ?but yit is included in the list of belts you need to hold to at least be an undisputed champion.so surely it cant be all that bad
     
    alba, Jun 25, 2008
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  6. DON1

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    Wbo = Pants. Warren = Pants X2
     
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  7. mike464

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    To be undisputed you need the WBA, WBC and IBF. The WBO doesn't come into it. That's why Hopkins was undisputed when he beat Tito and Lewis was undisputed when he beat Holyfield.
     
    mike464, Jun 25, 2008
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  8. robpalmer135

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    there have been some great WBO champs. I would 6 of the current WBO champs our nubmer 1 in the division, the Ring and Fightnews agree with me.
     
    robpalmer135, Jun 25, 2008
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  9. Beeston Brawler

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    OK - my No.1 in each

    Klitschko IBF/WBO
    Haye WBC/WBA/WBO - soon to be vacant
    Calzaghe WBO SMW, or (Tarver IBF)
    Calzaghe WBO/WBA/WBC
    Pavlik WBC/WBO
    Phillips IBF
    Cotto WBA
    Hatton
    Campbell WBA/IBF - not sure about the WBO, stupid interim thing going on
    Pacquiao WBC - ok moving up
    John WBA
    Vasquez WBC

    So an even spread - but not many of them hold the WBO only.

    To me, all the IBO has to do to overtake the WBO is to introduce mandatory challengers.
     
    Beeston Brawler, Jun 25, 2008
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  10. alba

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    here is a history of it
    History
    The WBO started after a group of Puerto Rican and Dominican businessmen broke out of the World Boxing Association's 1988 annual convention in Isla Margarita, Venezuela, claiming to be disgusted by the WBA's questionable rules and ratings systems.[clarify]

    The WBO's first president was Ramon Pina Acevedo of the Dominican Republic. Soon after its beginning, the WBO was staging world championship bouts around the globe. Its first championship fight was for its vacant super middleweight title, between Thomas Hearns and James Kinchen; Hearns won by decision. In order to gain respectability, the WBO next elected former world light heavyweight champion Jose Torres of Ponce, Puerto Rico, as its president. Torres left in 1996, giving way to Puerto Rican lawyer Francisco Varcarcel as president. Varcarcel has been there since.

    The WBO was made popular by boxers such as Oscar De La Hoya, Marco Antonio Barrera, Naseem Hamed, Michael Carbajal, Johnny Tapia, Harry Simon, Nigel Benn, Gerald McClellan, Joe Calzaghe, Steve Collins, Michael Moorer, Dariusz Michalczewski, Chris Eubank, Vitali Klitschko, Wladimir Klitschko and Chris Byrd in the 1990s.
     
    alba, Jun 25, 2008
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  11. alba

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    im sure i read somewhere else you needed to have 3 of the four belts.
     
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  12. Beeston Brawler

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    I think you do need three of the four to be generally classed as 'undisputed' - I sit somewhere in the middle of Mike and yourself - the WBA, WBC & IBF would be of preference.

    But in truth, often a guy can be considered undisputed if he only has two and the linear or Ring title - many said Hatton was after beating Tszyu, bearing in mind he only had one belt + Ring, because he was stripped for whatever reason, and this was enhanced further after beating Maussa.

    Tough one to call.

    But back to topic, it would be great if the IBHOF would reduce the number of alphabets it recognises, and then the WBO would fade back to where it belongs, alongside the WBU, WBF etc. In terms of the HOF, with Ottke winning God know's how many IBF matches, will he get in??
     
    Beeston Brawler, Jun 25, 2008
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  13. mike464

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    If you acknowledge that their are four legitimate titles you'd need all four to be undisputed. Otherwise the guy with the fourth title could dispute your claim to be the champion. The fact is that the hall of fame, the ring and most others don't count the WBO as a proper title. Winning the WBC, WBA and IBF titles means you are undisputed.
     
    mike464, Jun 25, 2008
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  14. alba

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    well that is true to a point but 3 out of aint bad.
     
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  15. dan-b

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    If you hold the WBC/WBA/IBF the WBO doesn't matter. The WBO "champ" should really be giving up his belt & becoming mandatory for one of the three proper belts so he can fight the undisputed champ.:good
     
    dan-b, Jun 25, 2008
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