Spzilka fight was completely irrelevant to Povetkin fight

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  1. XCalibur79

    XCalibur79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't understand why people think Wilder's performance against Spzilka has any bearing on how his fight with Povetkin will turn out.

    Spzilka was a mobile southpaw with excellent head movement, and basically all he did was run from Wilder for most of the fight. He never hurt him or even dented him. He had a lot of shots blocked and when he got aggressive or careless he damn near got killed. At best, he might have gotten a very questionable decision. It was basically like Tommy Morrison-George Foreman only Morrison actually damaged Foreman a couple of times and never got caught.

    Povetkin has little head movement or speed, he is not like Spzilka at all. Although he is a much more dangerous puncher and is tougher no question. But this fight will be far diferent. Povetkin will take far more leather but will deliver more too.
     
  2. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Szpilka excellent head movement??? You're reaching Wilder fanboy :lol: Povetkin little head movement or speed? :patsch
     
  3. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Povetkin has great handspeed and great footwork. He knows how to get Inside and pressure his opponent. He can end a fight with one punch, is A great combination puncher, has A great chin and is tough AS nails. He will smoke wilder before the sixth
     
  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    There is literally nothing Szpilka does better than Povetkin... NOTHING. Awkwardness is really the only thing he brings to the table that Sasha doesn't.
     
  5. XCalibur79

    XCalibur79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Povetkin is easier to hit than Spzilka. If you can't even admit that then you have no credibility at all.
     
  6. XCalibur79

    XCalibur79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No evidence he can get inside effectively on taller fighters. Only reason he did it against Wach is Wach had no power and no offense.

    His hand speed is nothing special either.
     
  7. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    You have no credibility dude... You're just ****ing Szpilka off because he's a Wilder victim. There's nothing he does better than Povetkin, defense certainly isn't one of them.
     
  8. XCalibur79

    XCalibur79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Povetkin is just not that hard to hit. He is tough and has good power, and is a good combination puncher but he is not that hard to hit. Its just the truth.

    You just basically will not admit Povetkin has weaknesses. He is good but he is not perfect.

    People's love affair with a Russian with the personality of a sloth continues to puzzle me.
     
  9. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    Szpilka was knocked down 3 times by Mike Mollo in two fights. So much about him being difficult to hit.
     
  10. XCalibur79

    XCalibur79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He didn't run from Mike Mollo like he did Wilder.
     
  11. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    if it isn't about style matchup, it's still relevant in term of levels.
    Spzilka isn't close to Pov in skill or power, and yet he was outboxing Wilder until the KO.
     
  12. XCalibur79

    XCalibur79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, not really. Outboxing is another term that's thrown around to loosely. Wilder was ahead on every landed punches category. Spzilka never so much as dented him.
     
  13. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Oh, be real here. Apart of the obvious house judges, every remotely unbiased scorer had it for Szpilka or at least about level if you favor agression.
    I remember in the RBR people saying that Szpilka would have been robbed if it had gone the distance after the judges scores were known.
     
  14. XCalibur79

    XCalibur79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The final punch stats are really all that matters when you get right down to it. Of course yes I know its a round by round basis thing, but again, once the knockout happens that's pretty much irrelevant.

    I just haven't seen an argument that Spzilka was winning this fight that wasn't mostly arbitrary. He never hurt Wilder in the least and mostly moved away from him.

    At best it would have been a flimsy decision loss for Wilder, which that could happen to almost any fighter. But he took care of it with the KO.

    Bottom line is, if neither fighter is hurt, and the punch stats are about even, any decision may really depend on what the judges like in a fight. It might have been arbitrary either way. That's why you knock your opponent out and don't let it go to the scorecards, unless its an obvious one sided beating like Lacy-Calzaghe.
     
  15. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder looked quite mediocre against someone like Spzilka.Well,every fighter has a day off once in a while.The problem is that Wilder looked less than stellar in all his last 3 fights,against Molina,against Duhaupas,and against Spzilka.
    Povetkin plays in a totally different league.