Sr: Jr beats Canelo, today's fighters unskilled

Bulldog24 · May 29, 2020

McCallum could be out boxed by a mover and counter puncher with hand and foot speed.

Bulldog24 · May 30, 2020

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McCallum could be out boxed by a mover and counter puncher with hand and foot speed.
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Eg Curry, Kalambay, Graham, Jones

Speed bothered him, see the first round of the Julian Jackson fight

There was no better fighter in history if you stood in front of him and walked into him. Eubank wouldn't, look at his foot speed, reflexes and ring generalship against Benn and Watson at middle and how they hit mostly thin air with head shots apart from the odd right hand

UniversalPart · May 30, 2020

Junior has one facet to his game that trumps Canelo - endless stamina.

That's where we could see Canelo unfold if Junior pushes him to the brink.

Cannot see it personally though,

wutang · May 30, 2020

Of course he's going to say that. My 2 year old son would **** canelo up if you ask me

haileris · May 31, 2020

wutang said: ↑

Of course he's going to say that. My 2 year old son would **** canelo up if you ask me
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Hmmm... what kind of doping rules would be in place?

Bulldog24 · May 31, 2020

Bulldog24 said: ↑

Eg Curry, Kalambay, Graham, Jones

Speed bothered him, see the first round of the Julian Jackson fight

There was no better fighter in history if you stood in front of him and walked into him. Eubank wouldn't, look at his foot speed, reflexes and ring generalship against Benn and Watson at middle and how they hit mostly thin air with head shots apart from the odd right hand
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McCrory was out-jabbing and out-boxing him for a number of rounds

Bulldog24 · Jun 3, 2020

Johnny Bos used to talk about Chris Eubank winning the 1st round against Mark Breland in the 1984 NY Golden Gloves quarter-final after less than a year training (!), Breland being the best amateur EVER and Eubank 'catching that legendary jab as if catching a ball thrown by a kid' according to Bos, when Breland realised Eubank couldn't punch (yet) he came forward and the referee stopped it in the 2nd, Eubank protesting profusely it shouldn't be stopped.

Bos said Eubank refused to shake Teddy Atlas' hand (after a previous fracas) after walking out the ring and his mentor 'the great Adonis Torres' told him off.

Apparently Eubank told Wilder right before Ortiz II about this experience saying how 'fear' can make the opponents adrenalin and reflexes go into 'another dimension'. Fear he had for his trainer Breland and that Ortiz may have for him.

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Bulldog24 · Jun 3, 2020

'displaying perhaps the most perfect exhibition of dexterous foot movement and complex punching you'll see against the hideously overmatched Les Wisinewski. If you want to see a skillster, you watch me against Wisinewski'

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JamesLightsOutToney · Jun 4, 2020

Cool reading, thanks for sharing!

mark ant · Jun 5, 2020

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Chris Eubank Sr: I wasn't very good, fighters today not skilled, Jr beats Canelo!

The ever-intriguing Chris 'English' Eubank continues giving us his breathtaking insights and analysis on all things boxing, including intracacies in his own career.

Unknown facts about you?

I'm actually a qualified secretary. I never really wanted to be a boxer. But 9 til 5, Monday to Friday for 50 years didn't appeal to me either. And the long arm of the law will always catch up, if you go that route. It just so happened I was obsessed with the art form, so I got exceptionally good at it.

When I was 18, I preferred watching Eddie Murphy than watching boxing. My favorite sportsman was Carl Lewis, not a boxer. I ran the 400m dash in 50 seconds for Morris High, because I had high hips. I typed 60 words per minute at 100% accuracy on a buckle spring keyboard and had the equivalent of a black belt in karate and tai chi. I could also walk on my hands, like the top gymnasts.

Boxing was what I was best at though. I was a natural transcendentalist - I remember when I was sofa surfing at 15 in London I would catch taxis to libraries to read books on Gandhi, for instance, with the street cash I made from stealing and selling. Those same shelves would one day carry my autobiography, before autobiographies became a thing, so to speak.

So I boxed for a living because you're self-employed and pleasing ones self, and so became hardcore extrinsic due to being at pains with what I was doing because I was doing too much of it, although I adored the actual craft. I began adoring the craft watching Mexican southpaw Dennis Cruz in the Bronx when I was 16, and I still do adore it.

You would not have heard of Dennis Cruz - he was a gym fighter, a super-featherweight. He had perfect balance and was poetry in motion.

I can only put a young Floyd Mayweather and Pernell Whitaker, right through Pernell's career, alongside Dennis Cruz in terms of what I view as artistry and grace. Maybe Michael Nunn, at a push.

Describe your natural fighting style?

I don't know about natural, I'm a thinker. I was a developed boxer-puncher with a chin, basically. I always believed in my movement, my ring craft. My natural gift was my jab, my speed and my accuracy. So I didn't need pad work, pad work was window dressing to me.

Within minutes of my first boxing lesson in February 1983, the trainer who worked with novice amateurs - which was fighters with less than 10 fights - Andy Martinez, more of a fitness trainer, was flabbergasted at both the strength of my jab and the speed of which I pulled my right hand back to my chin after throwing it.

It just took me two years to learn how to throw the right hand correctly though, and three years to learn how to throw the left hook correctly, and five years to have the left hook mastered. Because I had high hips. By mastered I mean throwing them at full power from the first round.

But what I wasn't was fluent and fluid and flowing, if you like, like a Pernell Whitaker who would dance in the middle of range and not be hit, while picking you to pieces.

I would change pace, I would change direction, I would move in and out of range from both sides, because what I needed was the opponent to be offset for me to actually set myself to pivot, you see.

I wasn't very good, and so I just had to make the most of my movement in there. And I knew I worked on my dancing and moving more than any other fighter, so the opponent couldn't telegraph me. I wouldn't step or bounce like others, I would glide - due to the thousands of hours I put into moving around in the gym.

And the judges are right there by the ring, at near eye level with my feet, so if they are seeing my feet moving on what appears to be cushions rather than a hard canvas, that's appealing to them, even if subconsciously. Then a posture at the end of a round could swing it.

Even if my opponent is more naturally talented than me and is outboxing me toe to toe, I've won the round on the scorecards.
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I know you don`t want me writing on your threads and told me to **** off, but this is the limit, Eubank was nowherre near the skill level of Canelo, I don`t know why you`re so obsessed with him, please stop insulting quality boxers with this British 1990`s narrative, it was bull, stop it.

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