SRL vs Pernel

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Quite a post. Speaks for itself.
     
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    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    LOL until Simon Brown took his head off.
    Untouchable that's hilarious. I have his bout vs Derrick Kelly and Kelly beat the hell out of Norris.
    I guess that makes Derrick Kelly the fastest ever huh cause Norris never beat him.
     
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  3. Mark Dunham

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    You're lying again.

    I simply pointed out that Leonard failed to do enough to win. How is telling the truth, meant to demean him?

    Again, how is this " Prime Ray would be far TOO MUCH RAY for Norris "

    an analysis?

    it's a statement without backup, without proof

    based on what, a poor ten round showing vs Larry bonds? uncoordinated Don Lalonde? Kevin Howard? Last ditch effort vs Hearns? WHAT?

    just because you wish it so doesnt make it so!

    The only proof we have is their actual fight

    and since we see NO drop off in the prior bout, and none of the writers picked Ray to lose, that means you're full of sh%$it

    sorry but you're just plain wrong again

    Nobody's interested in wishful thinking, hypotheticals, what MIGHT have happened; things such as "Prime Ray would be far TOO MUCH RAY for Norris "

    See? you've got to have something CONCRETE.!

    your attempts to PRETEND that Ray was suddenly crippled by old age after doing a job on Duran is totally a ineffective argument

    Did you not hear how Ray was lauded by the commentators over his performance?

    Did at any time, we see his legs failing him?

    There goes your whole "ray was shot. Ray couldnt function, Ray couldnt fight anymore. Boo hoo" theory.

    and I know that the other posters are as embittered about it as you are but there is NOTHING any of you can do. Norris EXPOSED Leonard's weakness, the same one that Pernell or Nunn, or Floyd would have done

    It is a matter of record. What was passable for Bonds, Howard, green, couldnt cut it against Norris

    Terry Norris exposed his weaknesses like no other

    TOO MUCH TERRY NORIS
     
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  4. he grant

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    What about McCallum who decapitated him ?
     
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  5. Pugguy

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    Well someone’s obviously having a melt down - given the volume of the grey matter involved, the process won’t take long at all.

    I’ve tried to help you.

    An addendum to my previous therapy - positive reinforcement - now forget NOT NEARLY ENOUGH NORRIS, instead, each night, before bed, look into a mirror and repeat 10 times - TOO MUCH RAY.

    Don’t worry, Ray won’t suddenly appear behind you and beat you up - the SUGAR MAN (alternate mantra, SUGAR MAN, SUGAR MAN…etc.) doesn’t roll that way. He merely pities the poor fools like yourself who are blinded by the glaring light of his incomparable talents.

    You will then begin to feel much better about yourself and your newly created connection to true reality. Your spinning top will finally tip over.
     
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  6. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That was Julian Jackson who basically knocked him out with ONE punch in under three rounds.
    But if that had been Leonard in there with Jackson he would have lasted only 30 seconds.
    It was the vast speed of Norris that allowed him to last past the first round.
     
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  7. he grant

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    Correct on Jackson , wrong on the rest ..
     
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  8. Mark Dunham

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    The two never boxed. I believe you're thinking of Jackson v. Norris
     
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    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

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    and you call yourself an historian.
     
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  10. Mark Dunham

    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

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    help with what? All you're able to do is repeat yourself

    I believe Einstein said it best

    "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result "

    Can you not do any better?

    is repeating yourself and expecting different results, your lot in life?

    It's going to be Norris UD 12 Leonard EVERY TIME

    Here son, let me help you do this correctly:

    TOO MUCH NORRIS

    NOT NEARLY ENOUGH SUGAR MAN, SUGAR MAN…

    Never leave a boy to do a man's job!

    Until SUGAR MAN, SUGAR MAN…whips Norris in the ring instead of your deepest fantasies, it's always going to be TOO MUCH TERRY NORRIS
     
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  11. Mark Dunham

    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Riddle me this:

    How is it that Too much Sugar Man, SUGAR MAN.. get his butt kicked by NOT NEARLY ENOUGH NORRIS and still end up as TOO MUCH RAY???

    Answer:

    He isn't

    Some lying numbskull named PugGuy, got their descriptions switched around

    The proper naming of the two legends is

    NOT NEARLY ENOUGH SUGAR MAN, SUGAR MAN…

    TOO MUCH TERRY NORRIS

    Leonard also sits on a throne only that his sits just a little beneath that of Norris
     
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  12. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    And you a troll
     
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  13. Pugguy

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    You’re actually repeating me - the sincerest form of flattery. You are the poster who knows far TOO little and speaketh far TOO much.

    You’re such a dribbling little fanboy. Every time you watch Norris, I bet you light a candle and wave it while wearing a tea cosy on your head lined with aluminium foil. LOL.

    Too bad Terrible Tezza got blown out like a candle in the wind. His candle burned out long before his deluded fan boy ever did.

    C’mon man, it just takes two neurones to make an original spark - surely you have at least that rattling around your cranium. Shake your head around - see if they can join forces.

    You quoting Einstein is as inappropriate as Putin quoting Gandhi in support of himself.

    Einstein also waxed lyrical re a little thing called RELATIVITY - a feature in boxing you TOTALLY don’t get.

    E = MC2 = TOO MUCH RAY. Ray converted his mass into boundless energy, blinding speed, and incredible force. Terry’s mass was converted into a messy heap on the floor far TOO many times without age or inactivity to ‘splain himself.

    Now stick to the program. Repeat: TOO MUCH RAY….BOW TO THE SUGAR MAN….TOO MUCH RAY……BOW TO….

    You like puzzles eh? I guess there’s a lot of ordinary things in life that do puzzle you…like a fly passing overhead that immediately takes ALL of your attention….duh!

    Here’s a little conundrum for you.

    Every Village has one…and you’re this forum’s very OWN, a shining example, above and beyond. What could you be?

    Yes. Correct. A MODEL IDIOT.

    Note, there are NO commas there Red call me Rooster call me Mark call me anything…..just don’t ever call me a shrink.

    PS - Your sparring services are terminated - you are NO challenge whatsoever - just like pounding on a static heavy bag….
     
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  14. Mark Dunham

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    I thiink Cobra33 and PuGGuy are trolls. They're baiting me, but only out of frustration
     
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  15. Mark Dunham

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    Please! The fact is, YOU are no challenge for ME!

    Ad Hominem Fallacy
    Ad hominem means “against the man,” and this type of fallacy is sometimes called name calling or the personal attack fallacy. This type of fallacy occurs when someone attacks the person instead of attacking his or her argument.

    Meaning you have a weak argument or no argument

    You no longer have an interest in the original argument since it is a lost cause for you, and therefore the reason for your increasinglybad manners

    I asked for an analysis because I wanted to know what you'd have say as it applies to Pernell v Leonard but all I get from you is "Sugar Ray had EVEYRTHING!" and "Too much Ray"

    A ten year old could do as much

    what does that even mean? Does it mean he hits like Julian Jackson or is it mere superlatives from a man with little foresight & no imagination?

    If Norris W UD SRL didnt matter, then why do we celebrate Leonard - Hearns 1???

    Why celebrate Leonard - Duran 2?

    Should we not ALSO give Norris all the glory for the same reason?

    Should Norris be condemned by the boxing community because he was too good that night and brought and air tight battle plan that Leonard couldn't crack?

    Should Norris be condemned because Leonard wasn't fast enough to hang with Norris?

    No!

    He should be praised for the multiversity he displayed. The public has seldom seen such talents on display, such intelligence, such SPEED!

    My guess is that if he do well against this master boxer, Sugar would most likely come up a bit short against Pernell

    I wont believe otherwise unless I have good reason to
     
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