SRR punching power overrated.

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  1. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    108 KO out of 173 fights. Thats a little more then half. Not much better then Floyd Mayweather in terms of percentage. And people call Floyd Mayweather feather fisted these days. Also by far not all of SRR 173 opponents were elite level.
     
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    Not saying it's a 100% done deal but the following fighters would have a very good shot IMO.

    SRL
    Monzon
    Hopkins
    GGG
    FMJ
    RJJ
    Hagler
    Toney
     
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  3. MrPook

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    See above
     
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  4. surfinghb

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    SRR had I think 199 fights, I believe ... That is a completely different level than someone having 50 fights .. It's not even comparable.. Floyd has addressed his "brittle hands" himself many times throughout his career. Floyd just wasn't built for 150+ fights. He is an ATG, but don't go down that road by alluding to Floyd had awesome power .. He just didn't win his fights that way. Defense (incredible blocking ability), speed, footwork, balance, counter punching, stamina(gym rat), focus, strategy ...that's PBF
     
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  5. Ronnie Raygun

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    109 ko not bad for a over rated puncher
     
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    My bad. Out of 173 wins. Right around 200 fights total. That doesn't make his case any better. Apparently that's a 54% KO ratio. Pretty much even with Floyd Mayweather percentage.

    I am not calling Floyd a great puncher. I am just saying you can't measure with two measures. Using double standards. How is it that if one guy who is "feather fisted" the other guy with the same KO ratio is supposed to be considered a Top 5 All Time puncher? That does not make any sense.
     
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    I explained clearly why.. you can't compare a proven SRR with 200 fights to an unproven FM with 200 fights.. meaning you cant take FM % at 50 fights and assume he is going to have the same production with 200. It's just not happening. I told you he wasn't built for 200 fights with those "brittle hands" AND the fact that he would have to take on significantly more risk and fight a hell of a lot more.. I mean look we are talking 150 more fights for him
     
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  8. Mr.DagoWop

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    Hagler and Monzon would be slight favorites. Not too sure about Monzon.

    The others would get beat in a pretty one sided fight.
     
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  9. Mr.DagoWop

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    KO ratio doesn't determine punching power you dingbat. If Floyd went against Robinson's opposition he'd be lucky to have a 20% ko ratio!
     
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  10. MrPook

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    I am talking about wins over SRR.
     
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  11. Mr.DagoWop

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    Realized that, thought you were talking about knockout victories over jake. Let me edit my post real quick.
     
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  12. MrPook

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    Yeah all the legendary 200 fighters SRR did fight.

    Just take a close look at his record.

    Harvey McCullough 7-26-2 that was on 1965-09-23. And he didn't even knock the guy out. He actually fought that guy twice in a short time. Didn't knock him out both times.

    Gaylord Barnes 6-25-0 1964-05-19 didn't knock him out.

    Freddy Wilson 15-29-0 1947-04-03 SRR knocked him out. SRR was World Champion at this point already.

    Dick Banner debut 1942-04-30 knocked him out. SRR was a pro one and a half years already.

    Those are just some samples over the timespan of SRR 200 fight career. There are many more examples of opponents like that when you go trough the records of his fights.

    And Floyd Mayweather gets critisezed for putting up a circus act against McGregor. Again dubbele standards.
     
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  13. Ronnie Raygun

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    Look at it this way
    109 ko look more impressive than 27 ko
    How many fighters have over 100 kos ?
    Srr an overated puncher ?
    In roger may weather voice you dont sht about boxing.
     
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  14. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Fritzie Zivic
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    Jake Lamotta
    Randy Turpin
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    Bobo Olson
    Henry Armstrong
    Sammy Angott
    Rocky Graziano
    Artie Levine
    Tommy Bell
    Jose Basora
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    Robert Villeman
    Rocky Castellani
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    Many of them multiple times. Hell, there's probably more that I missed. 4x middleweight champ. 5x world champ. 2 weight world champ. Almost 3 weight world champ which would have made him 6x world champ in the era of 8 divisions and 1 title per division. 10 hall of famers.

    Nobody will do that again.
     
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    Are you intentionally being obtuse? It matters because you're taking credit away from SRR power because he couldn't KO Jake. Yet here, Foreman could KO Chuvalo after teeing off on him. Yet do you claim Foreman has no power ?
     
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