SRR punching power overrated.

You take Mayweather to beat him at 147? Really? Toney at 160? Noway Jose.

At his very best at 160 he'd be an excellent chance of beating every Middleweight you named. He'd also beat fellow great SRL at 147.

At 160 he comes back to the pack a bit but if you take the very best of him there i'm not sure i'd favour anyone over him.

 

You need to look up what a "KO" is.

 

I love SRR's sudden brutal KO of Graziano. Talk about explosive.

 

All right Mr.Poop, lol jk man, Mr. Pook. You obviously don't think it's important to have 200 fights as opposed to 50 fights. I don't see how you can be a boxing fan and not realize that SRR competition was extremely more difficult than FM resume. But as they say, as you have been so reluctantly to come out and flat out say, let's cut to the chase... At welterweight, why does FM beat SRR??? and at middleweight for that matter?? the whole boxing forum is waiting??? Make it good

 

This is the trouble with the Boxrec generation. You're saying SRR couldn't knock journeyman guys out in 1965! You realise he was 44 years old then!
You're talking about his KO percentage and trying to tie it into PBF's, absolutely extraordinary.
The thing is Sugar Ray fought on into the sixties way longer than he should have, basically because he blew his fortune and had to fight because he basically ran out of money. You can more or less disregard this period of his career regarding legacy.
If he had retired around 1960 when he was approaching 40 years of age his record would look something like this: 125-6-(95ko's)
That's something to behold considering he'd moved up in weight and sustained that power while fighting so frequently over such a long period of time.
To even put PBF's power and SRR's in the same sentence shows you know **** all about boxing.

 

I don't know, Chuvalo wasn't dropped after getting hit by all those punches, Foreman probably doesn't hit that hard.

 

There was no point in asking the late Fullmer about that left hook because he said in a taped interview he knew nothing about it apart from having watched it on tape,he said it was like going into a room and some one switching the light off!
Ray koing Graziano,this time with his right hand!He sent his mouthpiece into the crowd!

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I know you're getting your fair share for many others here but just can't let that one slide. Robinson faced more ranked contenders than Maywather had fights for chrissakes. Then you can add another ca 140 fights to those. How on earth is that not a much tougher career?

 

LaMotta had an iron chin.

 

First of all being a champion in the boxing world the last 30 or so years is not a very difficult task. So many titles/belts available to win. The idea Mayweather beat 12 former champions cannot be compared vs past great who fought when only a fraction of titles were up for grabs.

SRR was a terrific puncher. His one punch kos of three former middleweight champions is one testament to this.

 

It should be said, though, that Robinson didn't have that many KO's among his best opp at WW.

The ratio was better at MW, where he stopped LaMotta, Turpin, Graziano, Olsen and Fulmer. Stopping four current and one former undisputed MW champions won't be replicated anytime soon, I reckon.

That goes to show a bit how unreliable KO figures can be to an extent in judging power. Because no doubt Robinson was a harder puncher at WW relative speaking, but quicker feet and larger relative size might have meant he slugged it out a bit less.