There is nothing new in boxing. It's all been done before. Leaning back away from punches was taught 60 years or more before Ali, "check hook" was also nothing new...what it was called is meaningless.
It's not a question of dogma. Do you really know how to fight? If you do and you watch Louis and SRR you should be drooling at the expert level of skill being exhibited. It's off the charts. If you watch Louis and SRR and don't see this then count yourself as grossly uninformed. Study up. Regarding SRR punching power are you joking? He ended fights with three champions with one punch. SRR was deadly.
Where do you come up with this sh**?? Steward calls it immediately after Hatton goes down .. he says it twice
That's was exactly my point. In the end it was a punch thrown while backing up with a little pivot in it. Then they start this whole "check hook" thing.
Even then before that fight nobody talked about it. Maybe it was Floyd maybe it was Stewart. Main point is: It's still a punch backing up.
It's not maybe it's Floyd , maybe it's Steward ... Open your Frig@@@ ears!!! Steward live announcing the fight, " Check left hook, check left hook ..he didn't see it coming !!! "
Yeah dude and there the idea of a "check hook" was born for you buddy. In the end it's a punch backing up. So its not just SRR knocking guys out backing up. 'Featherfisted' FM did it as well. "Yeah but he didn't KO him....."yeah dude whatever Hatton was done after that. And then 'featherfisted' FM finished him off.
No it was born for you because you think Mayweather invented it .. Everyone else except you knew what it was..You think legendary Steward made that up on the fly?? Don't know what your objective is here?? You have been shot done by at least 20 posters who know way more about boxing than you or me put together .... Probably a good time for you to bow out
Nah I don't bow out....winners don't quit, quitters don't win....lol I am sure these guys watched more fights and read more books. But I think a lot of them are a little too caught up in their books and anecdotes. Boxing didn't end in the year 1960. Obviously SRR can punch and is an ATG. I just don't feel like copy paste the SRR #1 P4P and Top 5 puncher of all time. I also think there is a 70/30 change FMJ beating SRR favoring SRR. I don't rule it out. He has better defense. And the highest connection percentage. And undefeated. And a check hook hahaha.
Robinson was one of the all time great punchers .. youre leaving out the fact that he was exhausted himself and giving up serious weight ..
Then why didn't you just come out and say this?? And support your opinion?? There is nothing wrong with that .. You went about this all wrong by suggesting SRR is a weak puncher .And you did this originally to somehow strengthen your argument for FM.. I knew this was your agenda and that's why I called you on it.. You just went about it the wrong way
"Ray Robinson was the greatest puncher that ever lived.He's the greatest punching middleweight that ever lived " Paul Pender. "Sugar Ray's got to go down in my book as one of the all time greats. I mean the fellow was a great boxer,a great puncher ,could take a punch and could move.What else do you need for a fighter.His hands look like they go off automatically". Fritzie Zivic from a taped interview June 1971. "I thought I was going to beat him,but Robinson, pound for pound,I think personally is the greatest fighter I ever fought,pound for pound a fantastic fighter". Rocky Graziano from a taped interview September 1972. "Never seen the punch coming I don't know anything about the punch except I watched it on movies a couple of times.I didn't know anything about being hit,I didn't know anything about being down. I tried to move,I didn't know that until I watched the movies. The first thing I knew I was standing up,Robinson was over in the other corner.I thought he was in great condition doing exercises between rounds.I didn't know it was even over and my manager crawled in the ring,I said "What happened?"He said." They counted ten." Up to then I didn't know.There was no pain ,no nothing.I was lucky.I just about made it up and it was probably one of the best breaks I ever had,because I didn't know what I was doing and I would have gotten hurt real bad." Gene Fullmer taped interview March 1970.