Stanley Ketchel Documentary

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  1. AWhitaker

    AWhitaker New Member Full Member

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    I recently finished a documentary on Stanley Ketchel and am trying to let people who might be interested know about it. It can be found at the link or by searching "The Life and Murder of Stanley Ketchel: Middleweight Champion of the World" on YouTube. If you watch, please let me know what you think.

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  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Well done!I hope you will become a mainstay here!
    NB Jeffries was not the referee,that was Jack Welsh.
     
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  3. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I second that. Welcome to AWhitaker.
     
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  4. AWhitaker

    AWhitaker New Member Full Member

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    Really? For which fight? I'll see what source I used. I'll post a correction in the description. Thanks.
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    You are welcome. Welch was Johnson's preferred referee and was the third man in the Willard fight.
    Johnson wanted him for the Burns fight, but Burns objected so they settled on the promoter
    H. D .McIntosh.
     
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  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    909-10-16 Johnson 205½ Stanley Ketchel 170¼ 48 4 3

    Mission Street Arena, Colma
    W-KO
    12/20

    ref: Jack Welsh
    World Heavyweight Title
     
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  7. AWhitaker

    AWhitaker New Member Full Member

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    Youtube offers limited editing options but I was able to cut out the Jeffries reference around the 7-minute mark that should process in a couple hours. I also added a note in the videos' description. Thanks for catching that.

    As for Ketchel and Johnson's heights and weights, I thought it was best to just mention the sources that disagreed, especially after I learned that promoters would sometimes publish altered numbers. Like in Louis v Conn decades later. I thought Nat Fleischer would be the most reliable source, compared to newspapers back then and websites today, so I included the "tale of the tape" type illustration from his book in a later mention of the fight. It shows multiple measurements, weight, etc.

    Something I was surprised by was the difference in Ketchel's record from one source to the next as I expected this to be settled. It could be over a disagreement on which fights are pro and it looked like newspaper decisions were sometimes accepted or dismissed.
     
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  8. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I will be watching & thank you.
     
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  9. Skins

    Skins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'll give it a look. Thanks
     
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  10. jdempsey85

    jdempsey85 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thanks for this,Much appreciated.I'll be rewatching soon as there was so much info

    Stanley was a maniac