Star Wars avator week in ESB classic section

cross_trainer · Sep 26, 2007

WindUp said:

Here's a fun observation.

There's this kid. He comes from nothing, but he has an incredible natural talent. He's taken in by a cantankerous but fatherly outsider, who thinks he can make the kid into the best. But he dies before he should, and one of his disciples takes over training the kid.

The kid goes on to become a warrior of unparalleled skill and ferocity. Some think he can become the greatest of all time, do things that have never been done before. But as powerful as he is, emotionally he's nowhere near as strong. His character is flawed, and he has a disturbing tendency toward uncontrolled violence. He never had a father, and his trainer can't fill the void.

But there's someone who can. An evil man of great influence and also great charisma. He's a master of manipulation, and he wants our warrior for his own selfish purposes. So he attaches himself to this warrior who's still just a kid emotionally, and becomes the father he never had. Slowly he poisons the mind of our warrior, turning him against those who have brought him to where he is, and bringing out the worst in him.

The people around the warrior, the people who brought him up? They're not perfect. They're aloof, cold, maybe they don't understand him. But they seemed to basically have his best interests in mind. They're not villains, but they can't relate to the warrior the way the evil and charismatic manipulator can.

Eventually our flawed warrior turns against them completely, falling fully under the sway of the evil father-figure who now controls him. But without the discipline those people imposed upon him, the warrior soon comes to ruin. His own flawed character is his undoing, and he suffers both the total collapse of his personal life, as well as devastating defeat in combat. He commits despicable acts that turn most observers against him forever.

Never having really cared for the warrior, the evil old manipulator is content to use him for all that he's worth, and then throw him away. Rather than the greatest of all time, our flawed warrior has become a case of "what might have been". He was great and fierce on his way up, but in a lot of ways we never saw his true prime, because he ruined himself. He becomes something of a pathetic figure, frightening but also sad. A freak. You pity him, even though he doesn't deserve it.

Now am I talking about Mike Tyson, or Anakin Skywalker?
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Which is what makes Star Wars so great--it deals so well with universal human foibles and tendencies.

DamonD · Sep 26, 2007

Man alive...medal for WindUp please, that was beautiful.

Holmes' Jab · Sep 26, 2007

WindUp said:

Here's a fun observation.

There's this kid. He comes from nothing, but he has an incredible natural talent. He's taken in by a cantankerous but fatherly outsider, who thinks he can make the kid into the best. But he dies before he should, and one of his disciples takes over training the kid.

The kid goes on to become a warrior of unparalleled skill and ferocity. Some think he can become the greatest of all time, do things that have never been done before. But as powerful as he is, emotionally he's nowhere near as strong. His character is flawed, and he has a disturbing tendency toward uncontrolled violence. He never had a father, and his trainer can't fill the void.

But there's someone who can. An evil man of great influence and also great charisma. He's a master of manipulation, and he wants our warrior for his own selfish purposes. So he attaches himself to this warrior who's still just a kid emotionally, and becomes the father he never had. Slowly he poisons the mind of our warrior, turning him against those who have brought him to where he is, and bringing out the worst in him.

The people around the warrior, the people who brought him up? They're not perfect. They're aloof, cold, maybe they don't understand him. But they seemed to basically have his best interests in mind. They're not villains, but they can't relate to the warrior the way the evil and charismatic manipulator can.

Eventually our flawed warrior turns against them completely, falling fully under the sway of the evil father-figure who now controls him. But without the discipline those people imposed upon him, the warrior soon comes to ruin. His own flawed character is his undoing, and he suffers both the total collapse of his personal life, as well as devastating defeat in combat. He commits despicable acts that turn most observers against him forever.

Never having really cared for the warrior, the evil old manipulator is content to use him for all that he's worth, and then throw him away. Rather than the greatest of all time, our flawed warrior has become a case of "what might have been". He was great and fierce on his way up, but in a lot of ways we never saw his true prime, because he ruined himself. He becomes something of a pathetic figure, frightening but also sad. A freak. You pity him, even though he doesn't deserve it.

Now am I talking about Mike Tyson, or Anakin Skywalker?
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A fine, fine post. Well done. :good

punchy · Sep 26, 2007

I like star wars

Little_Mac · Sep 26, 2007

ADMIRAL ACKBAR!!!!

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...he knows when its a trap!

ChrisPontius · Sep 26, 2007

JohnThomas1 said:

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I had a feeling you and her would get along. :yep

The Whaler · Sep 26, 2007

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McGrain · Sep 27, 2007

Little_Mac said:

ADMIRAL ACKBAR!!!!

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...he knows when its a trap!
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This is the one I wanted but I could remember his name.

I also wanted the thing that co-pilots Lando in the Millenium Falcon...but I couldn't remember his name either.

JohnThomas1 · Sep 27, 2007

ChrisPontius said:

I had a feeling you and her would get along. :yep
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Famously

:yep

Little_Mac · Sep 27, 2007

McGrain said:

This is the one I wanted but I could remember his name.

I also wanted the thing that co-pilots Lando in the Millenium Falcon...but I couldn't remember his name either.
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Who could forget Nien Nunb!?

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atsch

McGrain · Sep 27, 2007

Cool.

Little_Mac · Sep 27, 2007

glad you liked it...

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