Starting To Think Lennox Lewis Is The Most Complete and Best Heavyweight H2H

Maybe it's the influx of re-watching some of Lewis back in the late 1990's but I'm starting to think he was the complete package as far as Heavyweights are concerned. He's tough, he's big, he has range, he has an awesome jab, he's fluid, he can box, he can punch, he has great skills, pretty nice speed, and has the ability to throw most punches with dynamite. His downfalls are his overconfidence (Letting hands down, showing off, etc), and his chin is probably just average (But no worse than Louis', perhaps better and definitely better than Wlad's). I dislike how he plays it too safe at times when he shouldn't but if you bring the war to him a lot of times he'll throw it right back in your face. This is really having me re-evaluate my beliefs; my whole system is just being turned upside down. Perhaps Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali could rival him. I'm starting to think that Lewis might be able to control Ali with range, his jab, power, and great fluidity/combos. Tyson is a whole another question, but I'm liking Lewis chances more. If I ever thought it was 50/50 I might think Lewis has the edge if Tyson can't get him out of there early.

I'm speaking purely based on how he looks on film and putting him up against ATG HWs and not through some legacy viewpoint. What do you guys think? Is this just reactionary because Lennox Lewis footage is fresh in my mind (I've been watching his best of best stuff too. Golota, Briggs, etc). On a last note, obviously someone like Joe Louis might be the most complete as for as skills are concerned, but try to evaluate this by skills and natural ability (Height, size, range, power, etc).

 

It was a spur of the moment thread, but we all know you really don't mind because there are no two things you like more than shitting on my threads and raising your post count. And if this guy doesn't know **** he has done a good job of fooling some people. Now move along, this thread probably won't turn into anything so you won't have to worry to come back unless the discussion does happen to turn good.

 

Everything you've said is something I used to say and believe. I'm not sure if I don't but I'm just challenging my viewpoints. I know you not big on Lewis because I used to be behind you in a lot of these debates that ranked Holyfield and Tyson ahead.

1. He had flaws, I think Steward massively improved Lewis. Even if he was more boring, he was exponentially more effective.

2. I think his defense was good; at the very least adequate. Was his defense much worse than Louis? If so, you would think his chin would've been exposed more. Perhaps his chin wasn't that bad, or maybe you think his defense was basically his range (And that mainly was his safeguard).

3. That's what I've thought, too. In my heart of hearts, but my brain is questioning that. Ali would have to make the fight and show some forward movement. Does he really have the quickness to leap in and out or just jab around Louis. Liston didn't have great success but did have marginal sparring success with his jab. Lewis was almost 5 inches taller than him, faster and a better combo puncher.