Statement from David Haye

What about Haye throwing 12 punches a round and running round the ring the rest of the time against Valuev? What about 2 rounds of not throwing any meaningful shots against Harrison? Yeah, they were exciting fights right?

To be fair, they can't do April. Sky will not put on 2 PPV's in April because people are unlikely to buy both compared to if they were kept apart. RTL I assume can't do May or June, so it's July.

Wlad is the one who agreed to the July 2nd date, he wanted a tune-up in the mean-time, not to fight Chisora instead. Why is it unlikely? Vitali fought two title-fights in a similar period of time and he's older and more injury prone. 48 year-old Evander Holyfield has two fights scheduled within about 7 weeks.

Wlad has only fought 3 times in 2 years because Haye and Povetkin have pulled out of a total of 3 combined bouts against him. Why can't he fight twice in 8 weeks? Vitali pretty much did it, and he can beat Chisora in second gear.

Get your facts right Olu. They can not fight in April because Khan's PPV is on the 16th. Sky won't move that date, and they refuse to schedule two PPV's in the same month.

What's wrong with scheduling the fight before? If something happens, worst case scenario they try and move the fight back or if that's not possible, keep the date and Haye finds another opponent [Chagaev] like Wlad had to do with Chagaev at short-notice when Haye pulled out of their first bout.

Haye turned down Vitali to fight Valuev because he wanted to be claim a belt and have more leverage in negotiations for a future bout [apparently, not that he wants to fight them anyway] with a Klitschko. What would have happened if he got beat? Exactly. There's always tune-ups in boxing and therefore always future fights at risk, there's no more risk in this just because it's closer to the date.

Yet Wlad is the one who agreed to the first available date for both RTL & Sky - July 2nd. Haye is the one who's using the Chisora fight as an excuse to ***** out, again.

 

Keep this in mind, when they first postponed there fight in 2009, hayes told them two weeks (i think it was that), then four, an i think 6 after, now wlad fought on the date the fight was set. But hayes team lied from the get go, an in the long run cost wlad a couple of more fights that year.
let say wlad goes ahead sets up a fight in july only, now with hayes track record, wlad should be worried he might end up playing mind games. hayes might just push it back again, i don't think you can take hayes for anything else but untrust worthy now. So now if the fight does get pushed back cause of hayes, then with a fight already down once this year wlad wouldn't mind to wait.....I read before that wlad would like to reach 70 fights won. He is not here to wait for a lie cheat.
An to call this a career defining fight would not be true IMO, i see this as a good grudge match that could be done by the 3rd, an more then likly won't go past 6, i mean i still don't think even with david skills, he can get past wlads boxing skills

 

Tommy - Get real for **** sakes atsch

A fight of the magnitude of Haye/Klitschko would usually have 3/4 month promotion, they cant promote **** until 8 weeks before the fight as it will all be about the Chisora fight before that obviously.

You think its fair to expect Haye to wait and hope nothing goes slightly wrong in the Chisora fight which if it does means Haye wont have a fight until probably September/October when hes retiring at the end of October? Again - Get ****ing real.

Haye could sign to fight, Wlad could lose and then Haye's fighting someone with zero titles.

Wlads the one who has ****ed up the fight, take your ****ing blinkers off for goodness sake.

 

We were nowhere near as close to making the fight then as we are now.

 

Well, it is Wlad who wants the fight in July because he wants Chisora fight. Haye wants the fight earlier than July. I also have a hard time picturing Wlad fighting Chisora and Haye within a timeframe of 2 months (just think bout the promotion, also Wlad would have to stress from one training camp to another). Very unikley.

 

You mean because Haye is finally agreeing to all points that we all knew he'd have to agree to for this fight ever to have a chance? RTL, 50/50 etc. etc.?

If Haye had agreed this these completely obvious points the unification fight could have happened in early 2010 asking the sanctioning bodies for exceptions to delay the mandatory defenses. But Haye wanted it his own way. He wanted to get his easy pay days and only risk his belt against Wlad once he had his nestegg secured.

And Haye was dumb enough to think that everything will magically work out between the complex network of interests between Sky/RTL/K2/Hayemaker/Sauerland and HBO if Haye just said "Ok folks, I think I am ready now. Let's do it right now!!" -- Maybe Haye should have allowed the fight a little earlier rather than in the final months before his alleged retirement deal:deal

 

If the fight is signed, Haye can spend the next few months promoting it. There's no reason they can't promote the fight just because the Chisora fight is signed in the mean-time.

Nobody is making Haye retire in October, especially when he's primed and likely to still be primed in October. The self-imposed retirement date mean's nothing.

Likewise, do you think it is fair that he turned down Vitali to fight Valuev, and then the brother's in turn had to sit and wait for months hoping he didn't lose to Valuev and blow the fight? The same with Harrison?

You and I both know that Dereck Chisora is not going to beat Wladimir Klitschko. Who needs to 'get ****ing real' now?

Yeah, okay. At least I'm not stupid even to have the wool pulled over my eye's and hang on every word that comes out of Haye's lying mouth. I bet you think he was being really generous giving Wlad 50/50 and his own choice of gloves too?

 

Haye, July date? amhayesia?

 

in all my life of watching boxing i thought i would never see a bigger ***** than paul williams, but guess i was proven wrong.

 

What does all that matter now? This in reality was a different set of negotiations which seemed on the whole to be pretty much sorted. I'm sure most people including myself would rather have seen this fight sooner rather than later. It's funny, you disagree with what WALDO does and his army are out in force throwing dummies left right and centre - and that's not just pointing the finger at you. Just look at the reaction on here when Haye fought Harrison rather than Klitschko. Now that the roles have reversed.......

 

Its Heavyweight boxing, 1 punch can end a fight. It doesnt matter what facts are presented to you, you have no ability to think logically.

And just to add there would be no signature or signed contract for the Haye fight until after the Chisora fight so Haye would be going on Wlads word.

But thats ok again right? :nut

As i said - get ****ing real :hi:

 

David Haye does a lot of talking and not much else.

 

I'm a huge fan of David Haye but he really acts like a little ***** when it comes to negotiating with Wlad, it's obvious he doesn't want to fight him.

 

Chisora will knock him out and has the psychological edge over him. Calling Manny Steward an Uncle Tom for saying that Valerie Klitschko was better than the great Lennox Lewis and Michael Moorer both of whom Steward trained was a classic.

 

I'm not surprised by your comments in relation to my previous post. You've conveniently not responded to any of the points I've made.... Sorry I forgot I'm not making much sense....... I didn't think I needed a Phd to post on this forum but rather a love and appreciation of boxing. You can convince yourself all you like about the merits of Wlad's chosen course of action. It doesn't wash with me. You can't hide behind the smokescreen of excuses that you've manufactured to support your hero's wavering.

Until this recent development in proceedings, Haye was unarguably at fault for not fighting Wlad and then Vitali after talking up those fights. IMO he was too inexperienced a year or two ago and may still be too inexperienced for the challenge that Wlad or Vitali will present in a future match-up.

Since that time Wlad and Vitali have seized upon any opportunity to disparage and bait Haye for not "manning up" and fighting either of them e.g. Wlad Video special.

Am I making any sense yet? I sense you're still a tad confused - let me continue.

Bottom line - this is not about being a pro-Haye supporter, but rather a boxing supporter. Haye recently fought Audley Harrison and I personally let him know via twitter that it was a waste of time and effort, which I would not be supporting as a paying fan. I'm not into forgone conclusions or mismatches in boxing especially when you consider the time and effort that goes into preparing for and promoting a fight.

Your man Wlad asked for Haye to man-up and he has responded accordingly. Wlad then decides to continue with his mismatch with Chisora; you interpret this as a necessary tune-up that makes perfect sense to you!!

I very much like Chisora but feel that this is an opportunity that has come too early for him.

Is it too much for you to comprehend that Wlad Vs Haye makes a whole lot more sense than Wlad Vs Chisora?