Statistical Analysis: Hopkins, Jones Jr, Toney, Calzaghe

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BBurp, Oct 22, 2008.


  1. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hang on, did Roy earn points for being knocked out by Glen Johnson, or was I misreading? Wowzaz....
     
  2. sam_sunders

    sam_sunders science Full Member

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    well, an interesting idea man. but there is a massive human error problem, and you admitting a bias shattered your whole post hehe...
     
  3. BBurp

    BBurp New Member Full Member

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    B-Hop is by far the No.1.

    As for their resumes - Jones and Toney have fought better competition than Calzaghe, no doubt. But crushing defeats and inconsistancy count against them.
     
  4. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    Their resumes are still clearly better though, simple as that.
     
  5. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    aye thats right.

    your intetnions might have been sound but things just aren't that simple.
     
  6. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    when was jones inconsistent pre-ruiz? it's way too convenient what you're suggesting and not realistic.

    you said you and a friend have debated this a lot and the time you've spent sorting this out is commendable, but please don't think that because you've come up with a formula to 'sort out the problem' that it's the right one.

    boxing will always be a can of worms because of so many variables that can't be put in a box like you're doing.
     
  7. Clearly Cool

    Clearly Cool Active Member Full Member

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    To the original poster......good work.

    I don't agree with your results...they suck. But the idea is good and I like it when people think outside the square and try new things.

    Respect.
     
  8. BBurp

    BBurp New Member Full Member

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    Hey, I totally agree, I just wanted some way of quantifying what I was saying to my friend.. and yeah, it's all subjective to my point of view. But I've tried to be as fair as I could.
     
  9. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    Another note to the original poster:

    When your "Statistical analysis" is based completely on subjective ratings instead of factual data, it is not really "statistical" analysis. Statistics requires factual, measurable data.


    K?
     
  10. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    I'm liking your posts more and more these days.
     
  11. BBurp

    BBurp New Member Full Member

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    Thanks for being encouraging ..while at the same time shooting down my results. :thumbsup
     
  12. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    You do have a point Jones defeats were more crushing but the perception of Hopkins after the Taylor and Calzaghe losses was that he was as shot similar to Jones .
     
  13. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    I stopped when you started rating a win over Pavlik as better than a win over McCallum.
     
  14. BBurp

    BBurp New Member Full Member

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    Which McCallum fight are you referring to?
    I rated the McCallum at the time going into each fight. The McCallum who faced Jones and Toney 3 was a much faded version.
    So yes, in that case a win over Pavlik means much more.
     
  15. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    :huh