Statistical Analysis: Hopkins, Jones Jr, Toney, Calzaghe

Yeah it was historic, but lets face it, he wasn't facing a very good heavyweight. Ruiz was slow, lacked a huge punch and also lacked speed. Jones handpicked him so it takes some of the shine off.

Nunn was a natural MW and pretty handy too.

 

So handy infact that he was beating Toney untill the KO.

Facts are

1. Less fighters who started at JMW could have beaten Ruiz than could have beaten Nunn.

2. Jones beat Ruiz by one of the widest margins he has ever been beaten by, despite the fact that Ruiz has pretty much faced all comers at HW, and Toney was losing to Nunn before the stoppahe. Jones's performence was better

3. Ruiz does not pack that big a punch, but he is still a 225lb man.

4. Watch the fight again, Ruiz hits Roy with one or two more than decent shots and Ruiz is not fast but I have never though of him as particularly slow, hell if he was put in vs Peter he would have Ali like handspeed.

There is no way Nunn could ever ever be considerd a better win than Ruiz.

 

You don't rate a fighter on their "quality" going into a fight but on how they actually performed in that fight.

You gave Pavlik a 8.5 ! Come on the guy was meek and mild as warm milk he barely made a 5

Jones is rated too low , in most of the fights he won by such huge margins that they have to be 10's

 

There's too many subjective factors involved for your system to work, but you've tried to be objective and your thread is admirably free of glass jaws, ducking, exposed fighters, calfaggy, hypejobs and bums - on that basis, well done.

 

:-(

 

Hey fellas lay off the kid. :****off


At least he tried to be "objective" (whateva that means in this context).


These types of "analyses" are always going to be subjective by their very natures. How the hell can you possibly PROVE RJJ has a "powerful" punch? If you had to rate it out of 10 and gave it a 9 - how could you justify it beyond any doubt?

Answer: you can't.


So at least the guy has put some effort into forumulating his ideas and "thinking out of the box", so to speak. Even if he has got it badly wrong.

And if he didn't do it you wouldn't be able to narrow down your points of contention with him like this:

 

i gave him rep for trying. i only criticised him because then he tried to sell it as gospel.

 

``Just so . Pavlik was unable to land let alone throw many punches at Hopkins therefore his score for this fight at best is a 5.


``No. Knock-outs do not automatically merit a higher score than a dominating performance over the full length of a fight. Jones totally dominated many of fights.

I give you credit for trying though. :hat

 

I think you just shot yourself in the foot there.