STEPHEN A. SMITH Puts ELLERBE on BLAST (With Respect, Though)

When it was originally offered mannys numbers were actually lower and he was less of an attraction. Back then *****s were always comparing the fights between money and pacq's common opponents and how much lower the PPV buys were. Now look at their past two common. :good

 

those presenters really are unbearable dickheads. chicken noises... really? atsch

 

They were lower you are right. But none the less, the high payday each man had received was similar as both were B sides with Oscar and A sides with Hatton. Floyd had Marquez but Manny had Cotto which was bigger.

They are much different now. Floyd has gone on to make a career high $45 million with Cotto, plus $40 million with both Shane and Ortiz; Manny has the same career high payday of $25.5 million.

My main point is that if he is really worth the 45%, then send the books to a 3rd party accounting firm along with Team Mayweather and they can review the numbers. IF you really are worth the 45% you say you are, then the books will represent this and Floyd can no longer say anything in regards to the split as long as you take what the books show your worth.

 

You know whats funny? This is the first time I ever heard Stephen A agree with Skip. But yes they are very unprofessional with the chicken dance ****.

 

LMFAO. You ****ing loser. So you think 59-41 and Manny can get it? Did Floyd come out and say those exact numbers? Or you just assuming that based on PPV sales.

STFU, *****.

 

You can check my posts *****. The numbers are there. Already broke down the formula for ya too.

****ing *******s are some stupid mother ****ers. They think Floyd should ignore what he is worth economically. And the point here is that the $40 million offer was by no means a "duck." It was a fair offer that Manny turned down.

Not much more than $100 million on the table for the fighters to split ignorant *******.:deal

Have to explain everything to these *******s.atsch

 

I dont get your point. You say floyd offered 50-50 back then cause it was fair(?), but it's clear that pacq's more of a draw now, yet he doesnt accept the better offer.

And you have to compare the total revenue the fight makes(ppv buys gate etc), not how much each fighter makes. If floyd had arum as a promoter im sure he'd make less too.

 

Floyd Mayweather PPVs


vs Oscar De La Hoya (2,400,000 buys - est. revenue $138,000,000)
vs Ricky Hatton (920,000 buys - est. revenue $46,000,000)
vs Juan Manuel Marquez (1,050,000 buys - est. revenue $52,500,000)
vs Shane Mosley (1,400,000 buys - est. revenue $78,000,000)
vs Victor Ortiz (1,250,000 buys - est. revenue $78,400,000)
vs Miguel Cotto (1,500,000 buys - est. revenue $94,000,000)


Total buys = 8,520,000
Average buys = 1,420,000


Total est. revenue = $486,000,000
Average est. revenue = $81,150,000


Manny Pacquiao PPVs


vs Oscar De La Hoya (1,250,000 buys - est. revenue $71,000,000)
vs Ricky Hatton (850,000 buys - est. revenue $42,500,000)
vs Miguel Cotto (1,250,000 buys - est. revenue $72,500,000)
vs Joshua Clottey (700,000 buys - est. revenue $35,000,000)
vs Antonio Margarito (1,150,000 buys - est. revenue $57,500,000)
vs Shane Mosley (1,340,000 buys - est. revenue $73,000,000)
vs Juan Manuel Marquez (1,450,000 buys - est. revenue $74,000,000)
vs Timothy Bradley (700,000 buys - est. revenue $35,000,000)


Total buys = 8,690,000
Average buys = 1,086,250


Total est. revenue = $460,500,000
Average est. revenue = $57,562,500



$81,150,000 (Floyd's average est. revenue) + $57,562,500(Manny's average est. revenue) = $138,712,500(Combined average est. revenue)


81,150,000/138,712,500= 0.585=59% rounded
57,562,500/138,712,500= 0.414=41% rounded

 

Pac is not more of a draw now. He lost for starters. He does not do nearly as much revenue. Manny has never done more than $74 million for a fight. He hasn't come close to Floyd's second highest at $94 million.

Floyd does higher PPV numbers plus he does more revenue.

The key here is "revenue."

Who brings in more. And I am saying that if Manny and Arum really do believe they are worth 45%, then there is no harm in sending the books to an accounting firm. If he really is worth 45% then the books will show this.

Based on what I have come up with he is worth 41%. To those who say "well it's only 4%." Well Manny pulled the same type of **** on Hatton. Agreed to 50/50 and ended up with a 52/48.

Oscar is the main key in both fighters careers. Anything before Oscar is irrelevant really because BOTH had numbers between 300-405K only.

If you go by common opponents your looking at a 57/43 for Floyd.

 

^That supports my claim that pac is a much bigger draw now
goes from 300-400k? with marquez to beating floyds rev with marquez by a lot
Then slightly less with mosley

 

No it does not.

Show me where Manny has done better than $75 million in revenue. Floyd also averages more PPV buys as well.

Floyd is the bigger draw; the PPV #'s, revenue #'s, and payday's show it.

 

Ok so your "picking and choosing." Go look at all 5 common opponents.

Also, I am holding no bias. I used Arum's released numbers and gave Manny the BOTD for his last 3 fights.

You also say "slightly less." $5 million is a lot of money. $21 million with Cotto is more. Than look at Oscar as well.

 

Floyd's events are more expensive too. :yep

 

i think floyd/gbp may have counted each theater ticket as a ppv buy so your figures may not be accurate.

 

Floyd

Total buys = 8,520,000

Average buys = 1,420,000


Total est. revenue = $486,000,000

Average est. revenue = $81,150,000


Manny

Total buys = 8,690,000

Average buys = 1,086,250

Total est. revenue = $460,500,000

Average est. revenue = $57,562,500