Stephen "Breadman" Edwards breaks down Pac/Cotto catchweight issue!

Question still stands name four better fighters he could have faced at 147 in the same time period.

 

There is always a slight mental advantage when catchweights are involved. If the weight effected a fighter this will usually be noticed immediately before, during, or after the fight.

For example: In Pacs fight against Oscar he was clearly effected and drained at this weight. It showed in his body language and in his post fight interview when he admitted it.

The same did not show for Cotto. I believe he was fighting well and looked great for the first 4 rounds until he got caught.

However, this time around Cotto had more control of the negotations and was not going to put himself at a disadvantage physically or mentally. Even though he may have not been drained in that fight, he still worked a little extra to take off that extra pound or two and puts him at a mental disadvantage to make weight.

 

Floyd Mayweather.

 

I give that one at least another four years before it happens. If were lucky....

 

I give that one until the Pacman leaves Bob Arum.

 

Two wrongs don't make a right. This explanation just further validates the fact that a few pounds DOES matter. More than a few pro boxers have confirmed it. Very little amount of fans believe it. I wonder why.

Shame on Cotto for flip flopping (now he says the weight loss did affect him). But that does not suddenly make me change my opinion on Pac's win over Cotto. It was a good win. Nothing more, nothing less. If he wanted me to call it a great win, he should've fought Cotto at 147. The same rule apply to Floyd. If he beats Cotto it will be a good victory. If he wants a great win he should've fought/beaten Cotto in his prime.

Then don't take the fight. You're either sure you can kick his ass or you aren't. Gaining leverage is just a way to sugarcoat the term, "cherry-picking." Seeing Cotto struggle with Clottey wasn't enough for them to fight Miguel at 147. They had to demand a weight loss just to be on the extra safe side. That's like riding a bike with training wheels and wearing body armor and telling the world you're a daredevil entertainer.

 

Floyd Mayweather
2009 Shane Mosley
Paul Williams
Pre Ortiz Andre Berto

All of these fights would have been better than any of the fights Manny has fought @ the 147lb limit...

 

Everyone and their mother (including myself) thought ODLH was going to beat Pac quite comfartably while enjoying the size, skills and strength advantage. It wasn't until the fighting started to progress that WE ALL started seeing that ODLH was just not there. Only later to conclude that he was "drained". I remember ESB and all the threads before the fight claiming ODLH was going to win, that Cotto was a better fight for him or even Margarito.


But what most people don't remember is that ODLH wanted to fight Pac and meet him at 147lbs not the other way around. So is Pac to blame?

 

Only one I can agree with is Williams.

Cotto beat a 2007 Mosley.
Ortiz was Berto's first big time fight and he failed it.
Don't need to get into the whole Floyd/Manny soap opera.

 

Not sure what Cotto beating Mosley in 2007 has to do with it.

In 2009 Mosley was ranked #1 and considered the man to beat after he battered Margarito, Roach admits he told Mosley they wouldn't fight him as he was too good.

From 2007 to 2009 both Mosleys and Cottos careers went in different directions.

 

Man you pick Mosley to beat Pacquiao.

 

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Team Pac asked Mosley to come down to 143 because Shane is a much bigger dude. Pac's closer to 5' 5" than the 5' 6.5" that he's listed at. Not a duck at all.

 

Mosley was preferable to Cotto in November 2009, Paul Williams was preferable to both Clottey and Margarito in 2010, and both Berto and even Marquez at the full welterweight limit were preferable to Mosley in 2011. Simply rattling off a list of names is insufficient for evaluating the quality of Pacquiao's resume at this weight; the specific context in which each fight was made is necessary,

 

No blame, its just the politics of boxing.

 

Im ok with this