Steve 'Celtic Warrior' Collins.

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  1. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    How do you think Steve Collins would have fared in the ring against Jones Jr or Calzaghe?

    These bouts from what I understand were close to happening...I even heard Jones Jr offered a couple million to get Collins in the ring, before Collins had to retire on doctors advice.

    I personally think he would have been beaten twice...but do you think he would have made the bouts entertaining?
     
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  2. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Collins was a warrior and would not have went away easily however both calzaghe and jones where in a different league. I'll give collins the benefit and say he last the distance against both but drops wide decisions.
     
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  3. AnthonyW

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    Yeah I'd probably agree...he was very entertaining to watch, and had some great victories...but Jones Jr and Calzaghe I think would gain impressive wins over him. Calzaghe had power back then aswell, pity Collins didn't have the motivation anymore to go on with the proposed bout with him.

    I always remember watching him as a kid...knocking on the front door of some boxers house, calling them out. :lol: I forget who it was though.
     
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  4. ed7890

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    I think you have that the wrong way around, Collins was chasing a fight with Jones for a long time and he couldn't get it.

    Collins retired when Calzaghe was coming up to be a challanger to his crown. When Joe won the title Steve was coming back to face him, but collapsed in sparing and doctors told him to call it a day.

    I think that's the way it happened anyway.
     
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  5. Swansea Osprey

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    I was pretty young when Collins did a job on Eubank and Benn but people tell me Benn and Eubank were damaged goods by then ? ( Can anyone share some light on this )

    As regards to Calzaghe I thought he was Collins mandatory challenger but Collins retired ? So then Calzaghe fought Eubank for the vacant title ? ( Again can anyone share some light on this )
     
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  6. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    I know Collins wanted to get in the ring with Jones but it never happened. But when he was retired, I heard Jones offered a couple million if Collins came out of retirement and fought him...but had to fight Calzaghe first. Resulting in Collins' collapse like you said, and retirement shortly after.
     
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  7. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have heard jones say in the past that colins turned down a 7 figure purse to fight him, i have however not seen this independently verified and like you say collins was seen as the one doing the chasing at the time
     
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  8. ImElvis666

    ImElvis666 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Benn was, Eubank wasn't, definitely not the first fight, may have been in decline for the second. It's usually sour Brits who say that.
     
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  9. AnthonyW

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    I was only young myself...I know Calzaghe was Collins mandatory, but he said he didn't have the motivation or something and retired. Resulting in the Calzaghe Eubank bout.
     
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  10. ed7890

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    I don't understand why people say 'oh calzaghe was in another class'. Based on what? Care to follow that up with any points.

    And there is no chance of Calzaghe stopping him
     
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  11. Swansea Osprey

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    Ok Cheers
     
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  12. lankovski

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    Collins was a good fighter but pretty easy to find so I think both calzaghe and jones would have been to quick and busy for him so most likely in both cases entertaining ud's
     
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  13. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    I think that would have been a great, close bout. People probably say Calzaghe was in a different class because the majority see Calzaghe as having the more successful career.
     
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  14. ImElvis666

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    Jones would definitely had beaten him, Calzaghe I would have had as slight favourite had Collins taken him on.
     
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  15. UndisputedUK

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    Collins, in his prime, around Eubank\Benn time would have swarmed Calzaghe and given him a very tough fight. Hard to call.
    Collins in his prime would stop the Jones from the last few years. Collins had excellent stamina, desire to win and was tough. :cool:
     
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