Steve Cunningham: Haye fights like an amateur

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  1. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    biggest factor in this fight not happening, and a point cunningham never mentioned.

    don king does not back cunninghams abilty with money.


    wlodarcyck v cunningham went to purse bids.

    don king bid £50 k

    or 40 times less than what warren paid for the macranelli v haye fight.

    its obvious why cunningham would want some of that pie.
     
  2. Strike

    Strike Boxing Addict banned

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    :lol:

    I love the way Cunningham goes on about how he beat Huck. And who the **** was Huck? Who had Huck beaten? Nobody, in 2006 he was still fighting the likes of Lee Swaby a British journeyman.

    Huck had not beaten anyone of any note, he did manage a win over Rudiger May over 10 rounds, a guy who Herbie Hide starched in 2 rounds the other night.

    Haye would batter Cunningham and get paid peanuts for doing it, with nobody in the US remotely interested in the fight and with zero need to take it because he is the man at Cruiser.
     
  3. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Cunningham is good, but is automatically given the benefit of the doubt due to being American. The Huck win was nothing special and it's used as a credit, the same goes for beating Wlodarcyzk, a European fighter crushing either wouldn't garner the same credit.
     
  4. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dont like when posters use this term

    "He has beaten nobody" or "Who has he beaten?"

    Why are Huck and Wlodarczyk not credible names and Maccarinelli is? come on. Huck beat Vadim Tokarev who is a credible name, the guy who easily beat Darnel Wilson btw :D
     
  5. T.C.W

    T.C.W Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The will not happen and Haye has much bigger fish to fry at HW
     
  6. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Cunningham is wanting that payday badly!:yep
     
  7. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Huck and Wladarczyk and Macca are probably all on the same plane with different strengths, the difference is that Cunningham had trouble with both, dropped a loss to one and Haye's coming off a KO of Mormeck(superior to Huck and Wlodarcyzk by a bit) and a destruction of Macca.

    Haye vs. Cunningham is a mismatch, because Cunningham is just slightly superior to Wlodarcyzk and Huck, but a guy like Cunningham will inevitably be given more credit for decent wins on this side of the pond more so than Euro's getting great wins.

    What's a better win? A close win over a B level guy, or a blowout over a B level guy, or a grinding down tactical effort vs. a B- guy where you dropped a few rounds? Or a KO over a B+ guy who has a stylistic advantage on you(Mormeck)?
     
  8. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Overrated maybe, but I cant understand people saying skilled fighters like Dawson, or Cunningham are the new Jeff Lacy. They are far too skilled to ever get 'Lacied' by someone even as good as Calzaghe.
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    No, he'd just be blown out in a couple of rounds by Haye.
     
  10. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    Come on guys, Haye would KO Steve handily.

    No matter what, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE ANOTHER #1 CONTENDER TO FIGHT AFTER THE NEXT ONE, ALWAYS
     
  11. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    Precisely.
     
  12. MattMattMatt

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    As already mentioned, anyone who thinks that Haye isn't the undisputed champion must be a certified nutter! The only reason he doesn't have all the belts is because of boxing politics. If O'Neil Bell hadn't been stripped by the ******ed IBF for deciding to fight a rematch with the number one contender then Haye would now hold all the belts and none of this would matter. Haye is not ducking Cunningham to go and fight with Wladimir Klitschko, Samuel Peter and co!
     
  13. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    WTF is that? That's absolutely ****ing ridiculous. The title was vacant, it was stripped from Bell. The only reason Cunningham can say it didn't technically win a vacant title is because he lost to Wlodarczyk before he beat him. How the **** does that make you a more legitimate champion than just winning the thing in the first place.

    And Huck an 'undefeated powerhouse'?! :lol:

    Cunningham just went down in my estimation a notch.

    Simple question for the Cunningham fan(s): What are Cunningham's people doing to back up this talk. Namely, how many millions do they have on the table? Otherwise, it's just talk.
     
  14. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Even if they wanted to, they couldn't put millions on the table because this fight doesn't make millions. Also, they couldn't hope to recoup the money in future if SC somehow won - the division doesn't have big stars.
     
  15. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    I know. And there's the bottom line. Cunningham has no intention of fighting Haye, he knows it won't happen as he brings nothing to the table and if he's not completely delusional he knows he'd be sparked.

    He's just trying to cash in on somebody elses success and star quality to gain a bit of cheap publicity for himself.