Steve Cunningham: Haye fights like an amateur

The article states that Haye trashed Cunningham before USS's remarks. Haye moved up and wanted to dis the other champ (again Haye is the linear champ, we get it) to quash any discussing that USS is a credible threat that he should deal with before moving up. That said, of course Cunningham wants a payday but I bet he is pissed and does think he can beat Haye.

Haye can move up if he wants and maybe he should but why trash USS on the way out knowing he's not gonna fight him?

 

I don't think anybody is ignoring this. It was widely acknowledged before the Maccarinelli fight.

Haye proved all he needed to prove against Mormeck. He acheived his target is becoming number one at Cruiserweight. If Maccarinelli was from Philadelphia there would have been no rationale for the fight. The only reason that the Maccarinelli fight was attractive was because it was a all-British fight and there was a lot of money on the table.

Meanwhile you still refuse to answer the question of how much money Cunningham's camp are offering Haye to make the fight. Give us the figure that might provide an actual reason for the fight to happen. To the nearest million will do.

 

BigReg, let's cut to the chase: Haye has proved himself as the man in the division by beating the champ - Mormeck. He then took on the no. 1 rated contender in the division - Maccarinelli, and blew him out of the water in devastating fashion. Haye had said even before the Mormeck fight that win or lose, it would be his last fight at CW. He wanted to move up because he was a natural HW and had trouble making weight - his best form would be at 220+ lbs, not 200. After the Mormeck fight, Warren (Macca's promoter) thought that he'd be having big problems making weight and would come in weak and his boy Enzo would beat him and become the man in the division. So Warren payed Haye £1m ($2m), twice as much as he payed his own boy, Macca, to make the fight. Haye took the fight only because of the money and because he was certain that he could make the weight more easily, because he started training almot straight away after the Mormeck fight - he kept the weight gain to a minimum. He was also certain he would beat Maccarinelli, because Maccarinelly was overrated an didn't have the best chin. So...with all this in mind, he took the fight for the money and small risk, as he saw it. Now, on the basis of that fight, he wants to make a big splash in the USA against HWs...he is moving to heavy for sure now...

...only thing that could change his mind is a quick substantial offer. Has to be quick, because otherwise, he's putting on too much weight and has to be big because otherwise...what's the point? He can make a lot of money at HW anyway - and he feels he's better at that weight anyway.

So...if Cunningham puts an offer of $2,000,000 on the table within the next 2 weeks or so...Haye might consider it. If not, let's forget the whole business!:good

 

The reason is that he was actively trying not to.

I have never seen a fight where one boxer was obviously going to so much effort to not knock out his opponent.

Citing that fight is not bolstering your credibility.

 

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I thought Cunningham said Haye is ducking him! But yes, I see your point about the heavyweight titles being tied up for a fair while - but it's sensible for Haye to have a few build up fights at the higher division, he probably wouldn't get a title shot in his first couple of fights anyway! I think it's clear that Haye just isn't that interested in fighting at Cruiser anymore, he's being talking of moving up and having problems making the weight for a long time now and he only fought Macca because it was a very interesting domestic match up where legitimate calls of ducking may have haunted him.

Cunningham may very well have given Haye problems but I don't think there is enough call for the fight, I would guess that the majority of fans want to see Haye go to heavyweight, I know I do, and it is clear that Haye is a decent bloke in that respect - he genuinly seems to want to make good fights that people want to see.

 

No.1 according to whom? The Ring? i.e. the magazine that overrates American fighters?

No...Haye is no cherry picker - he fought the very best on offer! Why didn't Cunningham fight Mormeck for the title? Because he was messing around with guys like Huck!

If Haye fought Cunningham, he would only fight him for the money - now that would be cherrypicking; he has nothing left to prove!

Forget it, mate!

 

Why would Haye discuss a fight with Cunningham? Cunningham has nothing that Haye wants or needs. There are thousands of boxers all over the world that David Haye is currently not discussing fights with.

And if there's no offer then there's really nothing to discuss. As I said before, Cunningham isn't serious about actually trying to make the fight.

Maccarinelli was serious about wanting to fight Haye (well, at least until the weigh-in...) and his promoter made Haye an offer that was too good to refuse.

Cunningham just wants to ***** for publicity on Haye's coattails. It's slightly tawdry, but nothing we haven't seen before.

 

you're only all over this story like a cheap suit because cunningham is from philly.

true story. :rasta

 

Cunningham is a very good boxer, I think anybody fighting him would have big problems. He is very slick, has good handspeed, nice footwork and hell of a chin but Haye is too much of everything for him.