That may be the case. Regardless, I'm making valid, logical points; points that many of you aren't even bothering to counter.
do you acknowledge that cunningham missed the boat with this one? look, haye has made his HW ambitions clear for a long time. he wanted to take the CW crown then **** off up to the next division. now he took the enzo fight because it was a witter-hatton situation, a domestic fight that had been brewing for a long time and there was big £££££££££ behind it. cunningham brings nothing to the table worth haye bothering with another fight at CW, that's the cold hard truth. don't get me wrong, USS is a good fighter and i totally agree that he is the second best in the division right now and given the chance, the most likely to clear up once haye moves on. but sadly for him his promoters will not back him with the sort of cash that will catch haye's eye. he's arrived way too late for this one. (i personally would quite like to see this fight but can understand why haye is not interested)
Steve is a paper champ. He fought, and lost, for a title that was stripped from the 'man' at the time, O'Neil Bell. He subsequently rematched the IBF 'champ' and won it. And I did present a case for saying that 3 major belts is not necessarily a legitimate standard for being undisputed. The belts should not really have much of a say anymore, as soon as the IBF gets unified they strip their champ and have some bums fight for it. And what does one belt mean anyway? Haye beat the man and has three belts, as well as the ring belt, proper fans realise he is the 'man' and thats all there is to it. 'Undisputed' is not even a technical definition in boxing, and Haye is undisputably the top dog at Cruiserweight, even you have to agree with this. Therefore just because of some technicality regarding a non technical title, that does not mean he is not undisputed.
And its easy to discredit Maccarinelli now, but stylistically he posed a massive threat to Haye, he is a huge puncher and has good stamina that could potentially drag Haye into the late rounds to be KOed. Macca had beaten Braithwaite, which is a better win than Cunningham's best in Huck, IMO. Cunningham does not have the style to beat Haye, his stamina is pretty poor and he does not have the power to keep Haye off him.
How many times do I have to repeat myself? Bell was rightfully stripped for not fighting Cunningham. There was a 15 month gap between his two fights with Mormeck. He fought no one in between this time. Do you think the IBF was wrong for stripping him? So now Cunningham has a major title, and might have all 3 had Bell fought him like he was supposed to. So now you have a guy who has a major title. This same guy was supposed to have a shot at all 3 major belts before Haye. Despite these facts, you want to claim that Haye has cleaned out the divsion and is the undistputed champ. Is Haye the top fighter in the division? Yes. However, another fighter earned the right to fight for this distinction and was denied this opportunity by an unwiling champion. Sorry, but Haye is not the undisputed champion at CW. He's the top fighter, he's also the ring/WBC/WBA/WBO champ. However, without the IBF strap(especially considering that the IBF champ was cheated out his opportunity to fight for the undisputed title) Haye is not the undisputed champ.
Ok, so hypothetically, If Bell had not been stripped and Haye beat Mormeck for all three belts, then beat Macca for WBO, would you still consider USS a top challenger who Haye has to fight?
Two fights before the Macca fight, Braithwaite was knocked out by Jones. Jones was decisioned by Cunningham. So I guess the Jones win is a better win than the Braithwaite win. Also Cunningham does not have stamina issues. He's gone the distance plenty of times. He scored a 12th round stoppage in his last fight.
Bell would not have been stripped only if he fought Cunningham. Had he fought and beat Cunningham, then lost to Mormeck, then Mormeck lost to Haye; then Haye would have no reason to fight Cunningham. He would be the undisputed champ. However, that didn't happen.
There's only one other beltholder, and he has a major belt. So that "there's always one more fight" **** isn't going to fly in this situation.
BigReg, what does Cunningham offer Haye? Money? No. Prestige? No. The chance to become undisputed champion? No. He's already seen as that despite your protests. There's no reason for Haye to hang around at cruiserweight, he needs to crack on with conquering the heavyweights.
I've given numerous reasons, and even posted a backup source as to why Haye is not undisputed. No one has been able to succesfully counter my argument.