Steve Cunningham: Haye fights like an amateur

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  1. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    I never said it is no longer recognised as a championship belt, **** me you guys read what the **** you want don't you.
     
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  2. Jimbo

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    "Nobody"? You mean the WBC #1 contender?

    Here are the WBC rankings archives http://www.wbcboxing.com/WBCboxing/portal/docs/xls/ratingsarchive.xls

    They show that Haye became WBC #1 immediately after the Bell Mormeck rematch in March 07 and that he was WBC #2 behind Bell and Mormeck as far back as July 2006.
     
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  3. BigReg

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    The Kessler/Calzaghe situation is a tricky one. Calzaghe gave up the IBF belt so that he could fight Manfredo on HBO. He did this to setup a fight with Kessler. Therefore, Kessler would have never gone after that IBF belt. However, if Kessler did have the WBA/WBC/IBF belts and Joe had the WBO belt, then Kessler would've been the undisputed champ under the traditional definition. However, being undisputed wouldn't do him much good seeing as how everyone would dispute his status. This situation is much different though. If Haye had vacated the IBF belt and Cunningham later won it, then this wouldn't be much of an issue. However, Bell was stripped of the belt for not fighting Cunningham. He then lost to Mormeck, who then lost to Haye. You see the difference?
     
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  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Why do I have to keep repeating myself? Cunningham said he wanted the winner of Haye/Macca back in January. When else was he supposed to call out Haye? Remember, Haye won the belts in Nov. Cunningham was already signed to fight Huck when Haye was fighting Mormeck. Cunningham didn't beat Huck until the end of December. Cunningham served in the Navy, I doubt he's afraid to fight Haye.
     
    BigReg, Mar 12, 2008
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  5. Bomber

    Bomber Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The Point is though chaps, people are calling Haye out not because they want or think they can beat him, instead they just need or want a payday.
     
    Bomber, Mar 12, 2008
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  6. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    No, Haye fought Macca because of the payday. Haye is going to HW for the payday. Cunninghm wants to fight Haye because he wants to prove he's the best CW in the world.:good
     
    BigReg, Mar 12, 2008
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  7. Buddy La

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    Oh there's no doubt about that.
     
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  8. Smith

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    This is where I finish readin your posts. Adios
     
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  9. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    You don't for a second believe that.
     
    Cobbler, Mar 12, 2008
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  10. Buddy La

    Buddy La Active Member Full Member

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    Thanks for the link. I'm not speaking in those terms of recognition, but on the level of public recognition. Haye called Cunningham a nobody, yet more than being a #1 contender, he is IBF Champion.
     
    Buddy La, Mar 12, 2008
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  11. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    You nuthug USS far more than you do even Floyd or Hopkins. Well done Reg, ;).
     
    196osh, Mar 12, 2008
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  12. Smith

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    The only problem with what Haye said, is that about Steve.

    He is not a nobody, he is the second best cruiser out there at the moment. But he beats him.

    Its irrelative anyway, Davids leaving, and my boy Hernandez will soon dominate the cruisers
     
    Smith, Mar 12, 2008
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  13. Shaolin Box

    Shaolin Box Respect Full Member

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    damn i cant beleive this thread is still going...
     
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  14. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    BigReg really loves Steve Cunningham. :lol:
     
    196osh, Mar 12, 2008
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  15. Bomber

    Bomber Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Steve Cunningham isnt known by his own Grannie let alone mainstream boxing fans. I suppose its just coincidence that when Haye earns a load of cash and became the most talked about fighter in the upper weight class'es that Cunningham wants him.
     
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