Steward: Pac is Greater than Duran!!

Manny feeds of african american figters leftovers.

Morales
barerra
diaz
oscar
antonio margorito
hatton of course.

notice the pattern?

 

A lot of simple things for me.

1: Duran owned a division for 70+ fights, then moved up 2 full divisions and beat possibly the greatest welterweight of all time, at his peak, at his best weight. This at a time when Duran was probably on the slide. Still better than a peak Leonard, when you're at maybe 80%, and moving up 2 weights to face him? That's some going

2: Nobody in boxing was better than Duran at his peak, anywhere near his weight range. Not even Leonard. I'd say Manny met his equal in Marquez, Morales, and is a step below a peak mayweather.

When it comes down to it, Duran was just unmatched for most of his career. If you're talking PFP lists, he'd have been number 1 with guys like Leonard, Hagler and Hearns say behind him for years.

Manny, I'd argue, has never really been the main man. And unless you're preparing to say mayweather is better than Sugar Ray Robinson, I doubt you could class him at that level.

In the ring, in regards to performance and dominance, I put Pacquiao a definite step below Mayweather.

And Mayweather 2-3 steps below Duran

 

Nothing to do with that man.

Leonard had beaten a peak Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Benitez (all numerous levels above Pacquiao;s best ever win) and rarely breaks any top 15.

Pacquiao's best opponents - I'd say he was pretty 50/50. And they were numerous levels below the types of guys Duran was fighting.

Pacquiao lost a lot at the small weights. Had 2-3 pretty close fights at the featherweights. Losing at least 2.

Since then, lots of good, not great wins moving up in weight. Like Mayweather.

Sorry, that's about 40-50 on any ATG ranking, once the hype slips

I actually think Roy Jones will end up closer to Duran than either Floyd or Manny

 

I honestly think Roy Jones will end up closer to that sort of level than any other guy, once the hype vanishes, and people just get back to what went on in the ring.

Take my argument:

Beat probably the two best middleweights of his, or any era. You're talking two top 10 middleweights of all time arguably?

Dominated Super

Dominated light heavy like no fighter before or since. As in, for 6-7 years.

Then moved up to Heavyweight, and became the first middleweight in 100 years to in a belt there?

Seriously, once the dust settles, Roy may be the guy who lasts longest in history

 

Man, you're just suffering from a bit of fan bias I think.

Floyd's resume contains

Hernandez
Coralles
Jesus Chavez
Castillo
Hatton
Oscar de la Hoya
Mosely
Marquez

Over 5 divisions. Rarely coming close to losing, and possibly retiring unbeaten. What's more being utterly dominant at every division basically.

Differences between both guys resumes and careers is ziltch. Other than the fact that fans just prefer people who are more likely to lose.

Floyd's skills are numerous levels above Pacquiaos, and will be remembered as such.

His resume and accomplishments are about the same.

Sorry to be blunt, but Manny will be remembered as the guy who maybe found his level against guys like Marquez.

Mayweather retires as numerous levels above marquez

I'd put both Floyd and Manny about 40-50 once they retire.

Think Floyd will probably move up into the 30s once the hype dies down. Just because he was super dominant.

 

Man, you need to step out of the little Pacland bubble.

Manny's the Mike Tyson of his era. A lot of fans and media shouting how much they love him.

His resume is questionable even now. Let alone 20 years time.

If Manny don't fight Floyd, I doubt you'll convince anyone that he would have beat the guy

 

Floyd/Pacquiao resumes are pretty similar.

Just the fact that Manny made his name in wars with very good fighters, and Floyd beat them a bit easier.

Listing Manny's best wins, next to Floyd's, as I said, I don't think you're going to find much difference.

 

The only pattern we notice is your consistency of ignorance and racist tendencies.
:deal

 

"When the dust settles and it's 20-25 yrs after PAC retires his "LEGEND" will only be bigger and stronger which is kind of scary"

Sorry man, don't see it happening.

Manny's rep has taken a hit in just these last couple of years. Lot more people questioning him.

That's what happens in boxing. The screaming from fans dies down, the media stop bothering covering theme, and every year less and less people are believers.

I'd honestly say Manny has more to worry about than Mayweather and Jones, once he retires, and people start digesting careers.

Just because Jones and Mayweather dominated divisions, and really didn't have equals at the peaks of their careers. They outclassed almost everyone they fought.

Pacquiao had equals

 

Coming from a dude who doesn't even know that Xyolclaine is only legal to train with, and 90000% illegal to use in fights.

Man, you may as well put up pictures of the diet supplements Manny takes in training, that are illegal in boxing.

You do know that some things are legal to train with but illegal to box with? Different rules between training dates, and the week of the fight?

Tons of people have failed drug tests on Xyloclaine in Nevada. Youre not allowed to box with any pain killers.

Still, keep up your dumb ass picture, and everyone else will just carry on thinking:

"Man, that *******s never been inside a boxing gym"

 

Dominating one division is quite common. Having 8 weight division titles and 4 original weight division titles is one of a kind.

 

You think the diet pills Manny pops to squeeze down 7000 calories are actually considered legal in bouts?

Legal in training. Not bouts. He'd fail if he tried to box with them in his system.

Roy Jones failed doing a similar thing.

Piling down calories, and burning them off with fat burners