Still "Salty"

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by HolDat, Nov 19, 2020.


  1. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg @paulmillsfitness Full Member

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    Tyson fans when you mention Holyfield
     
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  2. BCS8

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    I give Lewis his props, but also slate him for ducking the rematch in what was an obviously unsatisfying conclusion to the bout.
     
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  3. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    Are you trying to activate us?
     
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  4. sweetsci

    sweetsci Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali - Liston II. I've been angry about the way this was handled for years.

    We still see posts from time to time that Tyson knocked out Douglas, but that Douglas got a long count.
     
  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    He's definitely trying to turn you on!
     
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  6. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    John Ryder vs Callum Smith.

    Just... don't...
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I'm sure Steele is absolutely guttered by that mate.

    Why was it a horrendous call? Do you think Taylor was in any condition to continue? Do you think Steele knew exactly how many seconds were left?

    Chavez had broken half of his face, slumped him on the canvas and ruined his career. It was a perfectly just stoppage.

    Furthermore, if it were it fifteen rounds, you never hear about it.
     
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  8. Greb’s-blind-eye

    Greb’s-blind-eye New Member Full Member

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    I was actually a Chavez fan/admirer, I found his relentless style totally captivating, not to mention, effective. And at the time (I was very young), although i realized Pernell was obviously great, not to mention it, as close to unhittable as they come, but watching him fight was like watching grass grow...

    that being said, Pernell completely dominated Chavez. The draw was a gift, Chavez lost to Whitaker as badly as he lost to Randall, just no knockdowns involved. So he should’ve lost that gaudy record a couple years before the Frankie Randall fight.
     
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  9. Greb’s-blind-eye

    Greb’s-blind-eye New Member Full Member

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    Man, that’s a tough one. At the time I believed it was a good stoppage, but then again a lot of people I knew were pulling for Taylor, and I’d picked JCC, so I wanted to be right...

    but with hindsight, Meldrick probably really deserved to win this one. The fight RUINED him. He took such a fearsome beating, never seen a fight like it, where one guy is winning the fight going away, yet at the same time, said fighter is absorbing awful punishment...

    anyway, it was Duva’s fault for distracting him as he was being asked if he could continue by Steele...
     
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  10. Greb’s-blind-eye

    Greb’s-blind-eye New Member Full Member

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    Although I can’t stand him or being such a phony, de la Hoya was robbed against Trinidad. Tito never really hit him with a clean shot all night, and he spent the entire fight chasing dLH, and getting a tattoo beaten into his face for his troubles...

    If you’ll recall, Trinidad was a notoriously slow starter, and it was general consensus on the fight telecast that dlH had won the first four rounds, without much struggle put up by Trinidad. But one judge gave rd 2 tonTito, although it was dlH’s best round of the entire fight.

    and then, once he and his corner we’re pretty sure the fight was well in hand, he got on his bicycle and gave away the final three rounds...IIRC, I had Trinidad winning 1, MAYBE 2, of the first NINE rounds.

    Trinidad was a deadly puncher. And the fight seemed unwinnable for him. I thought dlH’s strategy was pretty sound, although he could’ve done SOMETHIBG to impress the judges in those three final rds...

    I don’t lose any sleep worrying that Oscar de la Hoya was treated unfairly by the judges...but I WAS a pretty huge boxing fan back then, my favorite sport easily, and this crappy decision, along with the first Lewis-Holyfield fight which, IIRC, took place within months of the Trinidad-dlH debacle, put me off boxing for a few years. I’d seen bad decisions before. But two big events the same year, getting both so wrong...
     
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  11. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think Duva/Taylor's team also shamelessly cashed out on Taylor when it was clear he was declining. He looked very good a year after Chavez when he beat Aaron Davis for a title at 147, but struggled in his title defenses, including getting dropped twice in a win over Glenwood Brown.

    Taylor's next fight? Move up and fight Terry Norris.
     
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  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Young-Ali & Young-Norton....bull**** decisions both of them.... Jimmy Young beat both of them.
     
  13. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    Well that's true a 15 round fight would have been more conclusive - which is one of many reasons why I opposed the shift to 12 round championship fights - that's true of many fights.

    However, it is quite clear that Taylor could have made it the few seconds to the end of this round, and indeed that he should have been allowed to continue whatever number of seconds were left. He was on his feet, for goodness sake!!!
     
  14. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can literally spot a Hagler /Duran / Hearns fan by how much they hate Sugar Ray Leonard ...it’s a litmus test
     
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  15. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are so many Muhammad Ali fans who despise Larry Holmes
     
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