Stipe Miocic vs. Francis N'Gannou & Daniel Cormier vs. Volkan Oezdemir RBR

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  1. 3rdegree

    3rdegree Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Jones seems to know the boys at USADA.He and Cain should discuss a possible coup of the Heavyweight Championship.
     
  2. DONT B SCARED

    DONT B SCARED Pimpin Aint Easy Full Member

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    So people are celebrating Ngannou lost because the UFC promoted him to much?

    The only division in the UFC worse then Heavyweight is the womens featherweight division lol. I would have preferred seeing him wait to get that title shot but because there is no other relevant challenges other then Werdum the always injured Velasquez .

    So called glass cannon Overeem being ranked number 2 even after being KOd should tell you why they were trying to hype Ngannou.
     
  3. The Akbar One

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    You are on some of that Lomachenko ball gobbler type **** right now. I've been pointing out how bad Ngannou's take down defense is, while also stating that Miocic just needs to relax and this will be an easy fight for him, etc. How you pick out that I don't like Miocic while viewing all of my previous comments is beyond me. He exposed Ngannou, plain and simple. That doesn't mean I can't point out that pre USADA Miocic didn't have a gas tank this bad. I'm not singling him out either. Plenty of fighters cardio went to trash once the USADA testing was implemented.
     
  4. The Akbar One

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    Lets just say that some people are using that as a cover for their hate.
     
  5. 3rdegree

    3rdegree Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You have to consider he never had to control a 265 monster that was determined to win.To throw shade on his victory without substantiating your claims seems unfair.
     
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  6. DONT B SCARED

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    So they shouldn't try and promote people in his division to help get views that bring in more money for him? He is a hell of a fighter but he can't promote himself well enough and doesn't seem to attract viewers unfortunately.

    He is probably going to need a challenger that help bring in views that isn't there at the moment outside Werdum and Velasquez
     
  7. ForemanJab

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    I don't agree that he showed a bad gas tank. He kept a steady pace throughout the fight. Constant wrestling and scrambling for position burns a lot of energy.
     
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  8. KelandBeave

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    Terrific first rd, went to sheet thereafter.
     
  9. The Akbar One

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    Do you recall the first fight with Junior Dos Santos?
     
  10. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That fight was mostly a stand up war, grappling taxes the body in a different way.
     
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  11. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    I'm writing this in hindsight. I picked Ngannou by ko.

    Some people don't respect the struggle. Ngannou held every physical advantage. Sure, Stipe looks faster when both are exhausted. I bet Stipe can't catch anyone relevant with the wide shot Ngannou connected on Overeem. Miocic was outgunned everywhere physically, but was technically superior in all aspects.

    This fight went down exactly the way it should have. The UFC was founded upon technique. Ngannou was on his way to breaking that mould. Ngannou had ko'd superior strikers, and submitted a superior grappler. This was no way to enforce any sort of technical knowledge. Dude was conquering the MMA world in his own terms. Then last night happened. Stipe won using technique to defeat a physically superior opponent.

    Now the ball is in Ngannou's court. It's up to him to improve technically or press on in his current state.
     
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  12. Cross of Iron

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    Cormier picked up a nice win against a taller longer fighter and looked good doing it especially his striking . V O didn't use his longer reach very well and stood right in front of DC instead of angles and going up and down .

    On the main card Stipe survived the first round and then went on to dominate in the last 4 rounds . F N needs to work on his cardio and his ground game which means a new trainer in order to get better . Still F N landed some very good single shots and if he had of landed one more punch when Stipe was stunned I think we would be seeing a new champion but he didn't and the well rounded durable Stipe has his hand raised yet again . Stipe the first 3 fight defence Heavy Weight UFC Champion
     
  13. ticar

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    Great work Stipe!!!
    dana eat shyte
     
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  14. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Didn't you know Akbar is a pathetic little cretin?
     
  15. DONT B SCARED

    DONT B SCARED Pimpin Aint Easy Full Member

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    You don't think that's being hypocritical considering the **** being but on Ngannou in this thread because it's coming from people you like LOL