Stiverne to block Wilder/Ortiz

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by uranage, Jul 18, 2017.


  1. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I watched on YouTube a video last week where Stiverne said he hired J.Prince as his manager & Josh Dubin as his lawyer:

    youtube.com/watch?v=SmYEf9PC4K8

    Now its being reported that J.Prince & Josh Dubin are going to block Wilder/Ortiz from happening in November. Bermane said he the mandatory and he's earned it.

    Do you guys want to see Stiverne/Wilder 2?
     
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  2. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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    This is such bs, Stieverne got shut out in the first fight and has done nothing to warrant a title shot.

    I just forgot how pissed I was Povetkin-Stieverne got cancelled.. **** Stieverne get in line earn your shot beating Arreola years ago is irrelevant now.
     
  3. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    Why can't he just take step aside money.

    It's the perfect deal for Stiverne.
     
  4. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Stiverne said he doesn't want it. He has said on multiple video that it's the principle and Wilder didn't truly beat him.

    Don King has been negotiating with Haymon in regards to the step aside but Stiverne is claiming that he didn't authorize King to do so. Stiverne is saying that Prince & Dubin (of Andre Ward fame) will kill the Wilder/Ortiz fight dead.
     
  5. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    Hahaha. If that's what a win looks like for Stiverne, I'd hate to see a loss.

    Any idea what his rationale for that is?

    He was dehydrated trying to make that nasty heavyweight weight limit?
     
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  6. boxinggenuis

    boxinggenuis Member Full Member

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    No. I don't want to see Wilder vs Stiverne again. I think just about everybody would be interested in Wilder vs Ortiz though. Ortiz is much better than Stiverne. Ortiz would be the first top 5 guy has ever fought. In truth the fight we show where both Wilder and Ortiz stand.

    Stiverne isn't even top 10 right now.
     
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  7. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah that the excuse he used. He said the real fans know he wasn't 100% when he fought Wilder. He also said Wilder never hurt him in the first fight.
     
  8. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    What a complete ass.

    Wilder dominated him. It wasn't competitive.

    I could probably be more sympathetic to Stiverne's position under different circumstances, but a rematch is so stupid and I so much want Wilder/Ortiz.
     
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  9. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Everyone seems to be assuming this Wilder - Ortiz thing is real...

    Fake news more than likely....
     
  10. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Let Wilder fight stiverne and then Ortiz simple. Instead of being so inactive
     
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  11. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Funny how Povetkin was forced to fight Stiverne in an elimator after being Wilder's mandatory after testing for trace amounts of melodiom - within the legal limit- yet Stiverne tests positive doesn't have his fight canceled with his positive and when Povetkin fails- Stiverne is not giving an elimination fight.
    It's all so convoluted and corrupt.
    But hey if I'm Stiverne and I'm being dropped by guys like Rossy. I'm not taking side money and letting Wilder get a 6th voluntary and potentially getting picked off in my next fight against a D lister nor do I want to rot from inactivity.
    Wilder Stiverne 2 will be next. As expected
     
  12. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    What an *******. Yeah, he's earned it by beating a fading Arreola, whom he was losing to before the ko, well over three years ago, and not beating anyone since except Rossy who knocked him down. Oh, and being busted for PEDs and somehow not getting the suspension that Povetkin got. What a slime, but WBC is just as slimy for making him the mandatory. Hopefully the fight goes forward anyway. Although I was probably stupid for even thinking it might happen. This is modern era he boxing, the beat almost never fight the best.
     
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  13. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    I told you. It was too good to be true.
     
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  14. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hahaha NOW Team Wilder "trying" to make a fight with Ortiz makes sense. They get to make it seem like they're going for big fights but it's been robbed of them because some meany association make them fight someone he can probably beat. But they intended on fighting Ortiz. Honest!
     
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  15. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't think Al ever really cared for Prince, and I doubt this is going to change that lol