Stiverne's tactic against Wilder?

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  1. baconmaker

    baconmaker Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    How Stiverne is going to fight against Wilder? Is he going to try take Wilder out in early rounds if he gets shot? Or will Stiverne try to survive to the later rounds and then drop bombs and KO Wilder when Wilder is gassed out. How about Stivernes chin can it take Wilders punch? Its going to end by KO, can't see to go scorecards.
     
  2. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Stiverne has often fought going backwards looking to counter his opponent. Not sure if you can teach an old dog new tricks but I would def change that game plan and have him step into Wilder. Get aggressive, use his lower base of gravity and come forward fast. Similiar to Mercer vs Lewis. Step inside that long reach that is loopy of Wilder and use his superior hand speed to bounce quick strikes off Wilder's jaw. He does that and he KO's Wilder within two rounds.
     
  3. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    Bum rush the glass jawed fraud, Wilder doesn't know how to go backwards, doesn't know how to deal with someone that punches back in fact.
     
  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Based on how he dealt with David Price in the amateurs he'll probably edge forward with a high guard and look to draw Wilder in and then catch him with a big right hand over Wilder's left.

    Wilder has always looked disorganised when boxing off the back foot, he needs to be set or coming forward to get leverage in his shots. If Stiverne can put prssure on him and get him on the back foot he should have no problem with Wilder. The real danger is if he just sits back and lets Wilder get off first with his power.
     
  5. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he's smart he'll come out aggressively and try to take his head off. Despite his long reach, Wilder has a terrible jab and he can't fight going backwards.
     
  6. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just counter him. He has no defense at all and cant use reach even if his life depends in it.
    Early KO for stiverne.
    After that Wlad will jab stiverne to death and then KO him late
     
  7. TSoprano

    TSoprano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Land that right hand once and it's over.
     
  8. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    I just watched some Stiverne fights, he's dropping the guard often, then sticking out the jab acting like he's careless until his opponent gets confident to open up. Then he steps in and drops the right cross counter. Sometimes also thrown long straight.

    Wilder has to have a rock solid gameplan against this guy. I mean soft chin or not, if Wilder becomes undisciplined and allows Stiverne lure him into an open war then it will be all over. Wilder has to box, while Stiverne will try to set traps and counter.

    If Wilder remains patient and survives the first half of the fight then Stiverne will be forced to become the aggressor and walk forward, then it will get real interesting. I hope it comes to that.
     
  9. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Stiverne has veru good timing, decent hand speed and Wilder is wild, i believe Wilder can time him and stop him with nice counter, but its very hard to predict what Wilder is made of since he didnt beat anyone good enough to make good judgment, this will be good fight to see if he is any good.
     
  10. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is what he's going to do to Wilder.
     
  11. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    The more I think about this fight the more I want to see it. Can't wait.
     
  12. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Stiverne's victory over Price in the amateurs nicely echoes Angelo Dundee's sentiments about range, and how it's more about where your feet are than arm length.

    So many are hypnotised by measurements, to the point they can't fathom how a smaller man is to 'get at' a bigger one...simply uncoil at that junction prior to clinching.

    You need good timing to do so, but that's one thing Bermane possesses.
     
  13. technocrato

    technocrato Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well make him sign the contract and voilĂ !
     
  14. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Exactly. All Stiverne has to do is throw punches and it's over. Wilder is a glass jawed fraud who will crumble quickly.
     
  15. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    How badly is Wilder going to get KTFO??? I think it's going to be KO of the year type of stuff. That glass jaw joke is probably going to be on the canvas for a while!