STOP BLAMING BOB ARUM, NO Conspiracy PACQUIAO LOST! Here's WHY!!!

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  1. Horus

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    STOP BLAMING BOB, NO Conspiracy PACQUIAO LOST!Here's WHY!!!



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    There are many reason why 3 professional judges with more than a combined 50+ years in judging professional fights scored the fight the way they did. They are trained to account for, and see things the average fan does not. They are trained to score every round independently. They are trained to look numerous factors, 4 of which are of most importance. Such as Ring Generalship, Effective/Clean Punching, Defense, and Effective Aggressiveness. If you do not like this standard of how fights are judged, Dont leave it in the hands of judges, simple as that! On Saturday Night, Pacquiao lost to Bradley probably because he failed to effectively meet the standards in which Boxing Matches are scored in the majority of the 12 rounds he fought Bradley. Can you say in every round that Pacquiao for majority of the 3 minutes in each round displayed mastery of Ring Generalship, Effective/Clean Punching, Defense, and Effective Aggressiveness over Tim Bradley???? If you can, than guess what? The 3 professional judges scoring the fight disagree with you. Because for 7 out of the 12 rounds scored. 2 of the judges believe Timothy Bradley met the standard of which boxing matches are scored.


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    Why is Bob Arum being made the scapegoat in this whole fiasco??? I honestly feel that Bob Arum is getting unfair heat right now for something he did not control. Under no circumstance, can I find a logical motive for Bob Arum to rip off his only PPV cash cow in Manny Pacquiao!!

    FACTS TO THINK ABOUT
    1. Bob Arum does not pick the judges, NSAC Does!
    2. Bob Arum does not pick the Ref, NSAC Does!
    3. In almost in every case The supervising Athletic Commission will make all official assignment which includes judges and referee to work the contest. In championship fights, a commission not one person decides who will be the judges, and who will referee the fight!

    Manny Pacquiao right now with Top Rank, was and is a bigger draw than Oscar De la hoya, Floyd Mayweather, Marvelous Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran, and maybe even Sugar Ray Leonard when they were with Top Rank.

    This means, out of all the fighters that Bob Arum ever promoted besides Ali, he has the most invested in ensuring Manny Pacquiao does not get ripped off by judges, and dare I say it PROTECTED by judges. Over the past 6 Six Years we have seen BOB ARUM makes an ass out himself in the defense and preservation of his “GOLDEN GOOSE” Manny Pacquiao.

    • He has went on record and called Manny Pacquiao greater than Ali.
    • He has went on record and said Manny Pacquiao is the biggest star boxing has ever seen.
    • He has made up illogical excuses when People would Bash Manny reasons for not wanting to take drug test. (Afraid of needles)
    • He has kept Manny away from Slick Counter punchers for mostly all of his career ( Guzman, Mayweather, Martinez, etc..)

    BOB ARUM has been the greatest Promoter to Manny Pacquiao than any Promoter has been to any fighter in my opinion. So with that said Under no circumstance, can I find a logical motive for Bob Arum to rip off his only PPV cash cow in Manny Pacquiao, to give Timothy Bradley from Palm Springs, with no fan based a victory over So called Fighter of the decade “Manny Pacquiao”

    WHAT DOES BOB ARUM AND TOP RANK HAVE TO GAIN BY PACQUIAO LOSING?

    Think about this since Manny lost to Bradley.
    Do you still feel the same way about a Possible Pacquiao vs Mayweather fight? as you would have if Manny would have won? The fight that could have been so huged even now if Pacquiao would have kept his winning streak going, but now (ALL BECAUSE ARUM WANTED BRADLEY TO WIN???? :think) it is ruined.

    Do you still feel the same way about a Possible Pacquiao vs. Marquez 4 as you would have if Manny would have won?

    TOP RANK HAD MANY DIFFERENT OPTIONS IF PACQUIAO WOULD HAVE WON!

    TOP RANK had many different options for Manny Pacquiao all revolved around him winning this Bradley Match.

    1st: Try to Make the Mayweather fight, while Mayweather fresh out of jail, and rusty.
    2nd: Pacquiao vs JMM 4
    3rd: Pacquiao vs Miguel Cotto 2
    4th: Pacquiao vs Lamont Peterson
    5th: Pacquiao vs Victor Ortiz (MAKES COMPLETE SENSE FOR GOLDENBOY GIVES THEM A OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WE CAN WORK WITH TOP RANK)
    6th: Pacquiao vs Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (AT A CATCHWEIGHT) especially if Chavez looks good vs Lee.
    If Bob Arum was going to CASH OUT and Rigged a fight. Why not Rigged a fight in Which He has a bankable Star in Julio Cesar Chavez Jr!!!! This would make more logical sense!
    7TH: Pacquiao vs Brandon Rios


    IN CLOSING

    What happen on saturday night. was not the work of Bob Arum.
    What happen on saturday night was the Manny Pacquiao lost to Tim Bradley in the eyes of the judges who scored the fight. After all wasnt TOP RANK and TEAM PACQUIAO would said trust the commission, and let them do their jobs!!. Well guess what, The commission assigned those judges, and the judges believe that based in which all professional judges should score a fight.
    MANNY PACQUIAO YOU LOST!!!
     
  2. Horus

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    Give Pacquiao credit he showed alot of class after he loss to bradley.
    He give Bradley credit for the win, and did not disrespect none of the judges.
     
  3. SweetHome_Bama

    SweetHome_Bama Loyal Member banned

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    Bradley beat Manny, Manny didn't just lose.
     
  4. unloco

    unloco Boxing Addict banned

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    shut the **** up , :rofl
     
  5. Whipdatass

    Whipdatass Boxing Junkie banned

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    Great post Horus, lmao.
     
  6. Horus

    Horus Member Full Member

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    :rofl nice. i must admit that was funny
     
  7. Horus

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    Thanks. I personally based on his public perception do not like Bob Arum.
    But he shouldnt be blamed for this lost.
     
  8. Sir Will Wigan

    Sir Will Wigan HLF: A Real "Fightin' Man" Full Member

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    Hard to argue with you Horus.

    Hard to argue with 29-0 also. :yep
     
  9. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am amazed not only by the fact Tim won or Pac lost which is the same thing but the way Bradley won, he won 3 of the last four rounds of all the three judges cards. Means that he was super well conditioned but we already knew that, that he would suffer more in those ten weeks prior to the match than in itself, but the way he had the willpower and the resilience to through and beat Pac at the very end. People were right and I was delusional, Pac was and is in decline and Tim is on the rise and rise.
     
  10. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Pac-Chavez Jr at a catchweight? wtf now i KNOW you're trolling :lol:
     
  11. Horus

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    very true
     
  12. Horus

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    I had Bradley winning 2,3,10,11,12. Rounds 1 and 9 were close. But thats only my opinion
     
  13. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    Horus you on here with these long ass colorful posts to??lol
     
  14. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Arum would rather past the torch to a fighter that he promotes then allow Mayweather or any other fighter to get that win. Which is why he has been ducking Mayweather. Marquez, Mosley and Bradley all had to sign with TR to get shots at Pac.

    Worst case senario for Arum was for Pac to beat Bradley officially, leave TR to run off and make the Mayweather fight and then lose to Mayweather or beat Mayweather and never go back to TR.

    Its to convienent that all those things were in line to potentially happen and yet someone as highly popular and reguarded as Pac would get robbed vs someone like Bradley in which the only people who benifit are Bradley and Arum. Allowing Arum to either make Pac vs Bradley 2 & 3 or start building a new cash cow in Bradley.
     
  15. Horus

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    I had to post a response to last night and all the theories I have been hearing all day.