Stop Calling Close Fights a Robbery

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  1. LordSouness

    LordSouness Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just because you scored it 3 rounds to one guy does not mean the fight cannot be scored the other way. Close rounds are close rounds.

    Save for 2 or 3 clear rounds both ways, every round in that fight just about was close.

    Kovalev, in his best rounds, had the better jab, dominated the ring, the distance, smothered Ward's inside game and had Ward scrambling. In Ward's best rounds, Kovalev looked cumbersome, chasing him across the ring missing with his jabs and getting tagged clean to the head and body, he managed to rough Kovalev up on the inside in those rounds and he got in and out when necessary. As I say, this was 2 or 3 rounds, at best, for each man.

    The rest of the fight? It was won and lost by the odd jab, hook and superior ring generalship from round-to-round. All of which was highly subjective. Does two jabs outweigh dominating the ring and landing a clean right-hook? That's what it comes down to - and to call it a robbery because some people went the other way in the odd round here or there is what's really wrong with boxing.

    We now get to see the rematch. Be happy.
     
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  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Exactly.
     
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  3. Contele_Dracula

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    It was not so ****ing close! Stop this stupidity Kovalev was the champion and did enough to win this.
     
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  4. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    If we get a rematch then happy days to all. It is obvious though that roc nation fighters got extra rounds scorred tonight.

    Please refute
     
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  5. Capt

    Capt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    IT WAS CLOSE, BUT WARD DID ENOUGH TO NICK IT. NOT A ROBBERY BY ANY MEANS.
     
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  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I couldn't agree more a close fight isn't a robbery kovalev wasn't up by 5 rounds
     
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  7. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Well said!
     
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  8. LordSouness

    LordSouness Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Show us your round-by-round score.
     
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  9. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Yeh let the yanks have their P4P title victory, we know thats most important. robbing a fighter over there is as common as night an day. However if ward held the lhw titles, we know that kovalev would have to take them from ward by knocking him down in each round. rather than win the fight closely as the champ and still get robbed.
     
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  10. LordSouness

    LordSouness Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would say, of the two, I wanted Kovalev to win. I scored it 114-113 Ward. Sometimes, as I said, it isn't much which dictates the round.
     
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  11. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    114-113 basically means Kovalev won 3 rounds after winning the first 2. I don't think that was the case that's why I felt he won. he banked enough rounds plus the 1pt for the knockdown
     
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  12. Ricdog

    Ricdog Active Member Full Member

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    Just because a fight is close, doesn't mean the result isn't bad. The fact is that the MAJORITY of all ringside and tv viewers saw the fight to Kovalev, and in fact a wide majority. So far ESPN, HBO, and several of the other reviewers have ALL scored the fight for Kovalev.

    This is similar to De La Hoya vs Sturm (like someone else pointed). The actual points weren't too far wide, but it was very clear to virtually all people that Sturm won the fight (even if rounds wise it was somewhat close).
     
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  13. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Close fights can be robberies. I'm not saying this was a 100% a robbery, now that I've calmed down, but it's VERY hard to give Ward 7 rounds. Can't wait to rewatch.
     
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  14. LordSouness

    LordSouness Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nobody is saying that you can't think Kovalev won - that's what makes it a close fight - just that thinking that doesn't make it a robbery.

    4, 6 and 10 I gave him. Could have given him 12 and, if I remember correctly, 8 - but Ward just shaded them for me by the smallest of margins. Wouldn't say a scorecard which gave them both the other way was being unreasonable.
     
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  15. Lincoln Haines

    Lincoln Haines Member Full Member

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    One idiot in another thread said Kovalev won 8 rounds. This is why you can't have legit conversations with stupid people.
     
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