Stop comparing the fighters of the past to present day fighters!

Good post, got the same opinion.
Sadly some grandpas and dumb people will never get it.

 

Very nice post mate

 

I agree with the post. Ali being pre and mid to late 70 s , do you think he would beat Vitali?

 

the whole time i was reading your post i was thinking "bull****. has this guy not heard of Sugar Ray?" but u hit the nail right on the head

 

Great post, this is what I have always thought as well. Some people (especially old and dumb people as said above me) will never get it.

 

:good Cracking post!! Full of common sense, except for the comments regarding "Homicide Hank" who I always believed threw 100s of punches per round!!

 

Well put. When making an all time great list, you can't really rely on a theoretical, what if, match up. You have to go by how well a fighter succeeded in his division, or multiple divisions, at the time. That includes level of competition which is why Ali is held in such high regard.

 

Terrible post.

Henry Armstrong "didnt throw a high volume of punches per round"

Are you basing that on 2 mins of film you have seen on youtube?

When will people get their head out of their arses and realise boxing is not running in a straight line, its not throwing a ball in a hoop and its not like other sports.

Boxing has evolved over the years, in certain aspects it certainly has gotten better and so have the fighters. Some of the best fighters that have ever laced them up come from modern times.
But for all the things that have progressed, just as many have regressed.

I cant believe people think that modern day fighters are across the board technically superior when guys like Ricardo Mayorga, Paul Williams, Joe Calzaghe, Nicoly Valuev, Antonio Margarito, Edwin Valero, Injin Chi, Carl Froch, Valery Brudov etc etc etc etc have held titles in this era.

Its friggen hilarious

I agree you cant just broadly compare eras..Its not black and white. There are a lot of things to take into account. But believe me guys if you have actually done the research and watched a lot of the available film you can see that things havent progressively gotten better overall..its just gotten different to deal with modern interruptions and changes of the rules, modern fighting schedules and the culture of boxing in the modern era.
I dont disagree at all that turn of the century fighters looked primitive in comparison but guys from 50 years ago were every bit as technically proficient and talented as they guys of today.
Just so we know thats where I feel boxing peaked in a lot of ways.

I was in the same boat as a youngin and I argued tooth and nail for my favorite fighters of this era over the modern greats. But there is a hell of a lot more to it and in time you will see it.

 

Good points... NO!





Naww, I actually agree with some of your post. I do think there is a sort of cut off point where comparing certain fighters of the past to modern day fighters is quite ridiculous considering how much more skilled modern day fighters are. Comparing the likes of Jack Dempsey to someone like Lennox Lewis is absurdly unfair.

 

In my opinion the mid-late 60s version of Ali (When "The Greatest" was exactly that) makes Vitali think he is fighting a hologram!! But it probably goes the full 15. As for Ali upon his return to boxing in '71-75, well he didn't dance nearly as much and the "Rope-a-dope" wouldn't have worked on Vitali. That fight may well have been a lot closer than some care to admit, but it goes the distance because Ali was so damned courageous and the great man would probably have come away with a tight decision. As for Ali late 70's- Vitali to be honest I don't like to even consider Ali fighting during this period, but a peak Vitali wins that fight, by UD/ late tko. In my opinion a "Peak" Ali (And we probably never even witnessed him at his peak) defeats every single heavyweight there has ever been!!

 

I stopped reading right there.

 

I will never compare fighters of the past to present day fighters in fantasy matches. Boring.

 

so called experts wouldnt post on this thread.right on the head.:good