Stop comparing the fighters of the past to present day fighters!

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  1. homebrand

    homebrand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    no more impossible than the actual match-up itself. All it means is the time travel would happen a few weeks earlier than the actual fight night. Not unreasonable at all.
     
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  2. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's difficult to judge a fighter by just one fight but when I consider how Ali looked vs Mildenbarger, Bonavena, Wepner and a few others I say that a Klitschko win is not impossible. Then again, I also feel if you put Buster Douglas at his absolute best vs many ATGs he would upset more apple carts than a herd of bulls in downtown Pampalona.
     
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  3. cherokee

    cherokee boxfan Full Member

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    geez i wondered about that too...

    actually, at first i thougt, they're either too young, too fat or just had this "I'm a loser but I know boxing so listen to me!" kind of look

    few of them are quite good though i must admit :D
     
    cherokee, Dec 11, 2009
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  4. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I cant stand the way they come off tho, talking all snobbish like they are some kind of know it all gurus.... If you put a women in front of them they would probobly cum their pants :rofl
     
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  5. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good post, I concur.
     
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  6. HyperBone

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    Henry Armstrong KO1 Pacquiao;)

    old fighters are godly machines. hell, put primo carnera in a time machine and he'll clean out the HW division nowadays. he can even beat the klits with one hand
     
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  7. M.I.G.

    M.I.G. and STILL... Full Member

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    Good post TS, humans and their activities evolve.

    Nutrition, technique, training methods, have all advanced as people looked to find better and better versions to gain competitive edges.

    Not to mention the art of cutting weight. Lots of fighters of today have mastered this and we see bigger fighters fighting at smaller weights so matching them up with past fighters they'd usually have a size advantage.
     
    M.I.G., Dec 11, 2009
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  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol:

    :lol:
     
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  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Very glad you were here to catch this one. I read the thread backwards and thought I was going to have to do it...can't believe the number of people on the board in agreement. Really, really disturbing. Flatly put there are more people who are stupid about boxing in attendance on this board than know the sport. Pretty depressing.
     
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  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    No, he didn't. Sugar Ray Robinson isn't an "anomoly". Robinson isn't a great fighter because he is years ahead of his time and adopted modern techniques that werent in existance yet, he's a great fighter because he beat other great fighters who would succeed in any era. He was held, in his absolute prime, to a debatable decision versus Kid Gavilan, he was beaten in his absolute prime by Jake LaMotta. 5 months after his peak (readily accesable) filmed performance and probably his best performance at MW he was beaten on points by Randy Turpin. Are these three fighters anomolies aswell? Of course not. Some of these posts just leave me dumfounded.
     
    McGrain, Dec 11, 2009
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  11. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Good post, but you don't go far enough. Ali would be a journeyman today: the sport has moved on and boxers have improved. Look at athletic records. Modern athletes are better and Ali, Foreman and Frazier just couldn't compete today.

    :hey
     
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  12. suicide booth

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    I agree. I think this every time but I can never be bothered typing it. Cheers.
     
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  13. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Foreman won a tilte at 45 in the mid 90´s.
     
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  14. boricua100%

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    :happygood post!
     
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  15. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I completely agree. Boxing is on an entirely different level now. Most of those old guys wouldn't know what hit them. It doesn't diminish their greatness in ANY way though. We still have love and respect for them, but yeah we have to let that "Good ol' Days" stuff go. I don't think the newer generation is of that mindset though.
     
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