Stop making excuses for Haney......

Is fundora a weight bully?

 

Yes, Garcia missed weight, but I think he did it to troll Haney.

He didn't take off his sneakers and pants. He was also drinking a beer. He just didn't care.

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Part of it is semantics.
It is unfair - in same sense that it's unfair that Lomachenko was trained by his father from the very early age to maximize his potential, which is opportunity that most of his opponents didn't get. It's unfair that some fighters are gifted with strength or speed and others are not etc.

I make distinction between legal and illegall way of obtaining an advantage. We have certain rules - as long as They are the same for everyone, it is a "fair game", or "even playing field". Then You can take advantage of it or not, just like You can use your jab during a fight or not.
The reason why some full time fighters don't cut as much weight as others is not because They don't want that extra edge, but rather because They don't have the same discipline or mental fortitude - imo - so it's hard for me to hold it against the fighters who take advantage of it.

 

It was just a ceremonial weigh-in.

 

Well, Haney was Loma's mandatory and Loma didn't want to fight him, vacating the belt and taking some BS "Franchise" distinction. How's that Haney's fault?

Nobody robbed anyone. It was a close fight, and Haney edged it.

 

I love it. It really shows the true level of Devin Haney. These guys are both hyped fighters, but watching yesterday's fight I noticed that this fight was fought at a surprisingly low level. Neither man looked anywhere close to an elite fighter.

Haney was beaten by a guy who can't fight. Garcia doesn't know how to fight. No head movement. Leaves his chin hanging out. No creativity offensively. Doesn't set up his shots. Can't finish. He's just decidedly mediocre. All he has is a good left hook. That's it. All he has.

 

If anything people should be excusing why Ry didn't win more convincingly.

 

loma torched Haney worse than Garcia did, he boxed his ears off and had him hurt bad in 10th

this is what happens when you create a completely fraudulent winner , he gets crushed like a can by a fighter on the level of Garcia

 

Seriously. You put any elite fighter in Garcia's shoes and they would have finished Haney in round 7. He's got no transition from defense to offense and the made numerous mental mistakes when Haney was hurt. He's got the physical gifts, but lacking something upstairs.

Haney does have some skills, but I think Garcia is just a really bad match up for him. I don't think any of the guys at 140 are truly elite. Lopez is missing something. Haney is missing something. Garcia is missing something. Catterall is missing something. Cruz is missing something. Everyone is just a step below elite.

 

Garcia beat him worse than Loma did. Put him on his ass 3 times. But if Loma was in his prime and the same size as Haney it would have been an All Time Beatdown.

 

I agree. None of them are top fighters. I dont see it.

 

That's the worst take I've seen all day, lol.

 

So you wouldn't have any issue with any fighter in a big fight deciding to sit back and chill come fight week by deciding making weight is for chumps while his opponent does everything asked of him to stick to the rules. If your answer is no then you have no argument. You can't be selective on which fighters should get no stick choosing to not make weight.

If your answer is yes all fighters should not worry about making weight. Let's just ditch weight class rules if no heavier than 3Ibs.

Garcia fought brilliantly and you can still criticise him for choosing not to bother making the weight. The idea we should just ignore he had an advantage is ridiculous.

It's not about making excuses for Haney. It's simply stating the fact that Garcia chose to ignore the rules while his opponent did all he could to make weight. I have no idea how people can not see any issue with this. Like I said before, if you feel that way you cannot complain about any future fighter making the exact same call as Garcia.