Stop worrying! I'm convinced Haye beats Valuev.

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by slip&counter, Nov 5, 2009.


  1. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Yes Haye.
     
  2. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    KDC, Gaz, TFFP. All valid points you bring up. But imo this is not the Dave who threw the entire fuel pump from the bell vs Carl T. Even though Enzo Mac only lasted 1.5 rounds, Haye was letting a big awkward cruiserweight come to him before measuring and firing. 1st 4 rounds vs. Barrett was similar at Heavyweight. He let us in on his would-be gameplan vs Wlad with goading him via the t-shirt thing to press forward so Haye could slide the jab in the phone booth. I think this is a new "ring smarts" guy we'll see especially with a belt to seize.
     
  3. happydrinks

    happydrinks directfraction.storenvy.com Full Member

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    I feel Haye needs to just box for the 12 rounds, he doesn't need to go trying to throw a million bombs and he won't do that(I hope.) His punches are bombs naturally and he'll find plenty of gaps to throw them into with Valuev's sluggish movement. If he consistently lands bombs for 12 rounds I don't think he can lose a decision, even with the shitty German judging.

    Haye needs to win. The fact that his biggest threats in this fight are his own faults shows what a joke Valuev is.

    If Haye loses I would suggest retirement but I reckon he would've already died of embarrassment by that point.

    My pick: Haye SD, Anything a 46 year old with brain damage can do, Haye can do better.
     
  4. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    I really hope Haye can keep his composure cos if he does this can be an easy fight for him. I think fighting abroad will help in this sense since the crowd won't be cheering him on. Against Monte he got too caught up in trying to impress the home crowd and he made a lot of mistakes.
     
  5. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    You've gotta relax Flea. Haye is going to make this gimmick of a fighter look silly. Who exactly has the giant looked stellar against? This type of fight is a Haye faithful dream. A big scary looking dude being trashed by a smaller/faster guy. And yes Valuev IS that bad apart from a decent jab. I see no faints. I see no feet. I see a fella who's big and ripe to be aired out, look past all the bells and whistles and smoke and mirrors. :good
     
  6. Strike

    Strike Boxing Addict banned

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    I'm not worried, I expect Haye to stop him and win me 120 quid off a 10 pound accumulator. I think we will see a lot more body punching from Haye that we have before.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    Slip, I'm under no allusion to Valuevs ahem, talents. It's more Haye probably getting hurt by anything Valuev lands on him. Hayes no Sweet Pea, he will get hit at some point. I honestly think he would bomb Wlad out early without getting whacked, but this will probably go the distance. Haye will get hit, and as big a fan I am I don't trust his punch resistance at all, even against a non-puncher like Valuev :good
     
  8. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    I've been wrong about the Germans before namely when they jacked the Grim Reaper back in the day. But I think the Swiss already beat the German pirates to that ship to loot when they rendered that decision for Grizzly Adams over Evander Holyfield. Ironically it was a German guy who 1st interviewed Holyfield outside the ropes and while Evander was politically correct just saying he hit the Giant more times than getting hit, it was the interviewer who basically called it a farce citing his own 118-110 card favoring EH.
     
  9. TheUnstoppable

    TheUnstoppable Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ruiz buzzed Valuev enough to have him collapsing into the ropes.

    Barrett was landing overhand rights on Valuev for round after round.

    An ancient Holyfield made Valuev look like ****.


    If Barrett cna land at will, and Ruiz can stun the guy, what do you think Haye is gonna do to him?

    Also factor in how Haye seems to be in absolutely supreme state, mentally and physically, he's not just a c grade fighter turning up for his paycheck.
     
  10. zfc

    zfc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Great post with lots of good bullet points..........I think this will be Hayes easiest fight yet and after he wins the whole country will sit up and take notice.
     
  11. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    I know I'm like an old woman sometimes but I do worry about Haye in this one...I honestly think that to stop Valuev Haye is going to have to catch him cold, but if that doesn't work after a round or two, what then? Has Haye got the ability and composure to revert to plan B and outbox the giant for the remainder of the fight without gassing? I hope so, but I have my doubts
     
  12. Strike

    Strike Boxing Addict banned

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    He doesn't have to catch him cold. He has to keep catching him and he will. I think you will see Haye dummy and then go under the jab to attack the body. I think we will see quick in and out 2 punch combos, one to the body one to the head, and out. Wait for the jab, show the chin, as the right comes, slip it and bang bang again, into the head and then the body.

    He wont need to catch him cold. He is so fast in comparison and with so much to aim at that he can wind up on shots and land flush. Valuev is not McCall. He is not eating clean shots all night from Haye.

    Haye TKO 6
     
  13. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    I admire your confidence :thumbsup
     
  14. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    haye is gonna be bouncing em off that big nugget all night. :yep
     
  15. Decy

    Decy Barely Coherent Full Member

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    I agree I think body punches could be the key to this fight.