Straight Right/Overhand Right, Right Cross- the same?

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  1. MURK20

    MURK20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean its made up. That style of boxing is as technical boxing can get.
     
  2. Garrus

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  3. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Stepping back and coming over a punch, like a jab, with a punch of your own IS called a pull counter. Has been called that for 50 years. Thats not made up. It was my best trick with my straight left hand as a teenager. Scored a goodly handful of knockouts with it in my day.
     
  4. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How I always thought of it/learned it was like this:

    Straight - your typical straight punch from your rear hand.
    Overhand - more of a loop/arch to it. Lennox Lewis used it to good affect, look up some of his KOs to see it.
    Cross - usually it's done closer to the opponent than the straight. The punch crosses the body more, i.e. the shoulders and legs become more squared up. Southpaws use this most often instead of a rear hook and it's used against southpaws too.
     
  5. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Some trainers differentiate the cross and the straight. To others, its two terms that mean the same punch-A straight shot from the rear hand.
     
  6. bballchamp11

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    you're a southpaw?
     
  7. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Right, some use them interchangeably. For me (I am a southpaw) I've been taught them as two different punches.
     
  8. heehoo

    heehoo TIMEXICAH! Full Member

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    This.
     
  9. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can do either, but I am left handed. I box southpaw in most occassions- I change it up only because I can work decently behind a left jab and it changes pace(And helps me get out of the way of big right hands which are, in general, unpleasant).
     
  10. bman100

    bman100 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    wonder why Armstrong could land that punch better than others, no question the overhand is more telegraphed.
     
  11. bman100

    bman100 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    so, you're saying theres no rigid rules to what each punch is called?
     
  12. bman100

    bman100 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    great answers, thanks.

    its been mentioned that a cross is a punch that goes past the left foot, is it thrown at more of an angle? sounds a bit harder to describe than the other two, the cross and straight right are still thrown with a straight arm though right?
     
  13. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    ah, but is it the same as a Philly mayweather pull counter? **** no.

    It's a bit like the Italo-Kalambay right hand pull-roll outside slickercutt, you need to learn to differentiate the subtle differences in execution between that and an honest slip and counter right uppercut executed from the outside.
     
  14. bman100

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    i like pacmans straight left. well the commentators describe it as a straight left (Lampley even called pac's left hook KO of Hatton a straight left...) but its thrown often from that arched position so its more overhand, way too quick to even see a lot of the time.
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    spend some time on the floor to ceiling and you will definitely get the jist of the (gun barrel) straight right.