Straight Right/Overhand Right, Right Cross- the same?

...That highlights another reason why one science is sweet and the other savage. A gorilla could teach you how to throw a better overhand.

 

Some of dem gorillaz have MAD SKILLZ tho

 

Sure, they do. Though not in boxing. 99% of them would get wrecked by golden glovers in the ring. Even at its highest level, it's about as aesthetically pleasing as watching two gorillas mate.

Excuse my prejudice, man. I never appreciated the idea of a sweaty man with his arms wrapped around me. Nor do I prefer to watch the spectacle of the same.

A friend of mine calls the sport "scrotum-sniffing."

 

There are Olympic-calibre boxers in MMA. Thats a misplaced prejuidice. Id argue Antonio Rogerio Noguiera, Anderson Silva, and Vitor Belfort have "mad boxing skill".

Though, I must admit, when they are bad, they are indeed bad.

 

anderson silver is remarcable at MMA but unremarcable as a boxer. Im not saying it is not a sport but I think MMA is more the decathlon of combat sports in that it is made up of fighters not quite good enough to stick at one un mixed code of combat sports.

 

Yes otherwise it would be a hook. The straight right and the right cross differ only in that the right hand stays in line with the back (right) foot where as for the straight right the fist crosses the left foot. with both punches the weight comes forward off the back heel onto the sole of the front foot.

 

Generally speaking, MMA competitors have poor boxing skills. That leaves room for exceptions, but the observation still stands.

PS/I'd question the "mad" boxing skills of even the ones you mention. The reason is that they are not honing punching skills. They are doing much else besides punching and they sure as hell aren't competing against world class fighters (ie. boxers). They are generalists, not specialists. That means that even they had golden glove level skills, they aren't honing them, because they have to spend lots of time rolling around on the floor and twisting wrists.

 

It may vary among trainers today and yesterday and from place to place, but I've always taught that the straight right and right cross are the same thing. The overhand right is different, and stands as one of the most dangerous punches when thrown correctly.

 

I thought I'd ring in here.

The terms can be mixed and matched, but the straight right hand / cross is more of a follow up punch off the jab. It can also be used as a quick counter punch, especially if the guard is high and tight. The straight right / cross is often faster then overhand right.

The overhand right has more of a wind up action and arch to it. It also has more power when it lands.

Boxer types use more straight rights / crosses, while slugger types are more prone to throw the over hand rights.

My $.02

 

Yep-- and that arc makes the overhand the thing to sneak in on tall guys.

 

its also a hard punch to get out the way of when backed against the ropes.

 

a right cross is a counter and destinctly diffrent then a right straight or an overhand right...as the right cross is more of a technique, while a right straight and overhand right is a punch.

as described by jack dempsey its when the dude your fighting gets lazy and stops raising his left shoulder with the jab then you simply time the jab and slip it over your right shoulder as you throw an overhand right to the jaw.

its called a cross because the right crosses over your opponets jab.

its also important that you time it right with the jab so you get a combination of the 2 forces.

a straight right is a punch, just a normal right handed straight punch.


an overhand right has more of a curve/arch to it and you kinda punch up then come down with it.


its quite unfortunate that so many people think that right cross and right straight can be used interchangable.

 

Dempsey also called certain shots "jolts." It doesn't make it so.

According to everyone I know, the reason a right cross is called a right cross is because it crosses over your body when thrown from the conventional stance, as opposed to a left jab which shoots out from the body.

Regardless, sometimes the origins of a term are different from contemporary usage. Language changes.

 

A straight right doesnt cross your body when thrown from a conventional stance. A cross is used to throw the punch at a target in another position as is an overhand right. They are clearly three different punches.