Straight Right/Overhand Right, Right Cross- the same?

-straight - palm level with ground, your trying to sneek that shot into his guard and pop it. a bit heavier than a jab but crisp and solid, doesn't commit your feet long enough to keep you set so you can still back away. but also can allow you to throw a jab or more of a straight left to balance yourself and to stop them coming on to you (no manilow). the old 'finish with the left'

-cross - thumb down but the punch is straight, a more of a finisher type blow, over the jab even. longer than a straight and cross your whole body over to drive the punch through.

-over hand right - thumb down arcing over the shoulder but the head ducks down first to duck the on coming traffic and the right hand follows making it hard to counter or read at first but most good professionals will see it coming and make adjustments.

 

Did someone just reference Hajime no Ippo as a source of boxing information?

That's, like, one notch below Eddy Futch level.

 

well then tell me the difference between a left straight and a left jab, when thrown from an orthodox stance.

 

ashita no joe too

both of them retain the original meaning of a right cross, as a right cross counter.

 

...If you're going to be a stickler about terminology, avoid saying "left straight" when you should say "straight left."

The shot is usually set up by the 1-2 where you throw the jab and then the right with less power, and twisting with the right, you whip the left hard, stepping in as you do.

 

Whoa! WHOA!! Did you use cartoons as an authority?!

Silly-ass Manga is your source to prove Archie Moore wrong?

 

whoa whoa? jack Dempsey is my source, silly ass mangas just re-enforce that source.

weres your Archie moore citations?

Jack Dempsey

http://www.scribd.com/doc/247258/Championship-Fighting-by-Jack-Dempsey-1950

read all about it on pages 75-76.

The book was written in 1950 after Archie Moore had already been boxing for 15 years as a pro.



whoa whoa whoa, am i missing something? i just did a search of the thread and archie moore hasnt been mentioned other then just now in your post and just now in my post. wtf are you on about, bringing up archie moore?

 

whats the difference between a left straight and a straight left? i dont know this one.

that's how a left straight could be used, but more so i asked what the difference is.

you got one guy throwing left straight after left straight and you got one guy jabbing over and over again. whats the key thing they are doing different?

 

1. Seeing how you consider me a non-authority on the matter, I had to bring another one up. There aren't many fighters in history who can illuminate technique more eloquently than Moore, in case you didn't know that.

2. When it comes to technique, go with the technician. Moore was twice the technician that Dempsey ever was, but that isn't even the point. The point was that the straight right/right cross question is one of semantics and is thus unimportant.

3. "Manga" reinforces NOTHING! Your claim that it is has effectively ended this debate because I am not one who debates adolescents. Sorry, I prefer larger prey.


Oh, and the Moore reference is in hardcopy -SI, 9/19/55. Maybe tomorrow, you can ask Ma for bus fare to the library and see for yourself.

 

Your lessons are over, son. Go look it up.

 

so i see the bit about taping the hands and the bit about the hook off the jab and the bit about the boxer or slugger but nothing about a right cross, why dont you illuminate me on what moore says on this?

if he really says anything about this...

pathetic know nothing nobody, could be answered as easily as 1 word and you cant even do that....pathetic.

 

Yes -Duran set's up a hard right with a jab and then comes right back with a hard left. Good find.

I've always trained my guys to "finish on the left" when doing combinations -not always, but often.

 

You see conventional fighters throw a jab and then a right often -the "old 1-2." When you finish "on the right" meaning with a right hand, you are naturally a little off balance and open for counters. So, by finishing "on your left" meaning with a jab, a left hook, or a hard, straight left, you not only can catch your opponent-who is not prepared for it, but you will set yourself back into position.

Overhands work well when you are fighting tall guys. It has to thrown sparingly though. I used it as a sneak shot against big guys. You know, you lull them with basic textbook shots and turn them by moving around just outside the perimeter. Then you shoot in, lean left, and loop a monster overhand when they're expecting something else. It can be counted on to do serious damage if you do it right.

Nobody's annoyed here, man. Ask away. Just don't quote "Manga" at me and pretend it's an authority.