Strange boxing opinions

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by George Crowcroft, Jun 6, 2019.


  1. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Spoon KO s Tyson in the late eighties.All ways thought so.
     
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  2. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sparring partner Larry Holmes was fired by Ali after 1974 because he was getting too good for Ali and was getting the better of him everytime they sparred.
     
  3. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yoko's fro was tight.
     
  4. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As great as Joe Frazier was, if he fought anyone of note immediately after FOTC and 1972, he would have lost the belt.
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Here's a few for me

    Sonny Liston
    Wladimir Klitschko
    Mike Tyson
    Muhammad Ali
    Joe Louis
    George Foreman
    Lennox Lewis
    Tyson Fury

    Lewis was a wild slugger before Manny, he'd have never lost to any version of McCall the night he beat Golota.

    He wasn't training right and filming Oceans 11 for the Rahman fight. He clearly showed that a fully motivated and hungry Lennox Lewis is several leagues above Hasim Rahman.

    Vitali's best performance in my eyes is when he fought Lewis. In this fight he clearly showed he heart (which people could question). But he showed that a good puncher wouldn't find him hard to hit, he showed that a prime Lewis's footwork was much quicker and that he didn't have the power to KO Lewis.
     
  6. 88Chris05

    88Chris05 Active Member Full Member

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    Don't know if they are particularly strange or controversial, but these are some of mine which tend to get shot down or go against the grain.

    * Ruben Olivares is overrated.
    * The first Bradley-Pacquiao fight was actually close, and nowhere near the robbery it was generally described as.
    * Mayweather wasn't too keen on facing Pacquiao in 2010 when the fight should have happened, and the blame for it not happening then should be placed almost totally on his shoulders.
    * Robinson's status as pound for pound number one is too readily assumed, sometimes too forcefully fed to fans and his record occasionally gets spared scrutiny where those of other great fighters don't.
    * James J. Corbett is overrated.
    * Roy Jones is no worse than 50:50 against any Middleweight that ever lived (and there's only one or two of them who'd get that), and no worse than 40:60 against any Light-Heavyweight, either.
    * Based on styles, Juan Manuel Marquez would have a reasonable chance of decisioning Duran at 135, despite him historically ranking below a good number of other Lightweights who Duran would beat. A very live underdog.
    * Similarly, based on styles and their mesh of ring IQ, I could see Hopkins beating Hagler at 160, even though Hagler definitely rates higher as a Middleweight.
     
  7. Golden_Feather99

    Golden_Feather99 Active Member Full Member

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    Ray Leonard was better than Ray Robinson.
     
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  8. Roughhouse

    Roughhouse Active Member Full Member

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    1967-68 Sonny Liston chews up Joe Frazier and it's a slow and methodical beatdown.
    Prime Donald Curry was magnificent. Hard to see anyone beating him the night he annihilated McCrory.
    The "robbery" no one ever mentions is when Carl Williams boxed Larry's ears off and got screwed after winning at least nine rounds clean and clear .
    A whole bunch of fights had agreed upon finishes and more deals were made in promoter's offices and backrooms than we would care to realize.
     
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  9. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Although the following opinions aren't THAT controversial, I'm sure many will disagree with them.

    1. Prime Roy Jones was the best there's ever been.

    2. Prime Tyson smokes prime Foreman.

    3. H2H Bob Foster beats any light heavyweight in history.

    4. Ruben Olivares is generally considered the second greatest Mexican fighter, but I think Vincente Saldivar was both better and greater.

    5. The Fab 4 should really be the Fab 5, as it's criminal that Benitez isn't included when discussing that group.
     
  10. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Ray Leonard played a part in making the fight in New Orleans a bad night for boxing. Unless your a track and field fan but I like boxing/fighting.
     
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  11. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Not really a strange opinion, but never seen it mentioned.

    How come Japan and Mexico seem to have such similar fundamental styles? There are differences, but for the most part they are the same. Maybe they copied Mexican trainers (not a bad idea)?
     
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  12. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Larry Holmes is overrated because he never fought a southpaw in over 70 pro fights.
     
  13. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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  14. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Emanuel Augustus gave Floyd a ton of problems.
     
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  15. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't see Robinson being intimidated in the Montreal fight like Leonard was, though.
     
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