Strangest Dream Fights That We...

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Almost saw.

    For example, Jack Sharkey came out of retirement and warmed up his way up to a fight against Joe Louis in 1936. A strange fight considering Sharkey had also fought the likes of Jack Dempsey, similar to Archie Moore facing both Rocky Marciano AND Muhammad Ali!

    The question's this... What strange dream fights did we almost see?

    Joe Louis was making serious waves as early as as the mid 30's, Dempsey retired in late 1927. Bear in mind that Dempsy retired pretty young at the age of 32, and that Sharkey himself was older than that when he fought Joe Louis.

    There must of been talk of the Dempsey fighting Louis, as ridiculous as that might first sound. The mythology of the man was still there, and, of course, there was money to be made.

    Considering how Louis feasted on old champions (Sharkey, and this is what Schmeling was SUPPOSED to be) this wouldn't suprise me.
     
  2. Russell

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    Also, speaking of larger than life figures and the publics never ending faith in them...

    I know talks of Ali making a "comeback" were talked of as late as the mid 80's or something ridiculous like that.
     
  3. Russell

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    Jesus Christ, a hundred exhibitions?

    Quite a few.

    Did he still look respectable on the whole or had he degraded even farther than he had by the time of the last two Tunney fights?

    Also, I remember talks of Marciano having a fight against a black fighter behind closed doors some years after he retired. A slick spoiler type. Supposedly he was terrible in there and that partly convinced him to stay retired.
     
  4. SuzieQ49

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    Who? what was the fight result? dont say hurricane jackson, because i have sources about a sparring session in 1954 where marciano hit jackson with a shot to the liver cripping johnson making him double over and throw up all over the ring.
     
  5. Russell

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    I'm trying to remember his name. Like I said, his fights went to SD's a lot of the time, real pain in the ass type.

    Not sure who "won", exactly. I do remember Marciano looked terrible, though, hence why he didn't come back.
     
  6. SuzieQ49

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    yes this is all true
     
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    I wouldnt be suprised. Ill tell you this much, a heavyweight clubfighter named toxie hall(beat a shot ezzard charles)........floored rocky marciano in sparring prior to marciano fighting cockell. Al weill flipped out when it happened, kicked everyone out of the gym, roared liek a lion, and didnt take his eye off rock for the next couple weeks to make sure he was not distracted.
     
  8. Russell

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    I'm not suprised Marciano was slipping by that time in his career.

    His style of fighting, the back problems, the wars he'd been through.
     
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  10. Russell

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    I thought Marciano was a family man? :think

    Not so much in reality?
     
  11. Russell

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    Hmm, okay. Thanks, HH.

    Does anyone have any recollections on Ali coming out of retirement years after the Berbick fight? I've only seen it passingly mentioned before.
     
  12. Dempsey1238

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    I think after the Homes Berbick fights, and Ali's health becoming known world wide shortly after the fights, I think it would have been impossible for Ali to get a OK to box again.
     
  13. Russell

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    With the kind of money it could of generated?

    If Ali wanted it, I doubt it wouldn't have happened.
     
  14. janitor

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    The doctor who OKd him for the Holmes and Berbick fights should have been prosecuted.
     
  15. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    I agree. The doctor who ok'd walcott with his typhoid fever for his fight with al ettore should be tortured!.