Strength Relates To Knockouts?

I tend to think that the main component is genetic or neuromuscular.

Training habits and punching technique canb certainly help but the really gifted hitters are born with it.

I would add that while power punchers will tend to be men of considerable physical strength they will not necisarily be.

Oh and you can have the bigest biceps in the world and still hit like a girl.

 

Yeah strength and power are different, the trainer in our old amateur place used to say 'speed is power'. But great physical strength can mean kos in terms of using that stregth over the course of a long gruelling bout to break a man down. Some great 'strong boxers' include Shane Mosley and Beau Jack for example.

 

Agreed except without strength through your legs, core (abbs/lower back/obliques), shoulders, and other groups to a lesser extent you can have all the other factors near perfect and have your punch laughed off

IE Tommy Hearns isn't knocking out Mike Tyson

 

I disagree. If Tommy catches tyson cleanly enough, he is knocking out Mike Tyson, no matter how good his chin is. The reason he couldnt in a fight is because Tyson has enough power to stop Tommy in his tracks and he cant set him up for a clean enough shots. Also, Tyson's chin will be better than most that Hearns fights, but thre is no doubt that Tommy could knock Tyson cold, if he caught him clean enough. For arguments sake, if Tyson had one hand tied behind is back, Hearns wins the fight by knock out.

 

The best place to hit somebody if you want to knock them out is on the point of the chin, bam! And in a way that you snap their face and whip it over their shoulders and neurologically short circuit their brain. Other than that it's about two other things way before strength. Technique and bad intention. A lot of no wait, just as many big strong guys can't throw a punch for **** as can't weak guys. All that matters is how they use their body physiologically to deliver a punch, and whether they want to drive that shot right through the other guy's jaw bone or not.

 

What if Hearns was 6-5 225. How would he have done against Mike Tyson?

 

No tie both Tysons hands behind his back and watch as Tyson bites off both of Hearns nipples and laughs at his pigeon shooter power

 

You should visit the training section more often, the focus some people have on strength (lifting) is insane.

 

Depends whether Hearns goes to war or runs but Tyson KO between rounds 1-5 given Hearns P4P has the same chin. Tyson is faster, too good at mid-ranger and too powerful for that chin

 

It's largely to do with physics i.e. Force = Mass x Acceleration and Power = Force/ Time.
Tyson was able to accelerate his body and fists better than most. Hearn's excellent speed along with his long physique allowed him produce the power he had. Of course couple these with technique and timing you get real ko type power.

 

Your definition of power is wrong.

Force=mass*acceleration

Here
energy=Force*distance the object the force is acting upon moves


Power=energy/time
or,
Power=Force*distance/time
or,
Power=mass*acceleration*distance/time

 

I do not see that. Hearns usually hit his opponents clean and I think would go down and out. If Hearns were his same size and prime, I doubt Mike could handle Hearns. Hearns was too fast and sharp. Mike did well in his career, but he never beat an elite guy who was his natural weight and prime. I think Hearns stops him in about 2 or 3 similar to how he stopped Duran.

 

I believe it's a bit of both; genetics and training/technique. Tommy Hearns is a perfect example of a guy who had the genetic makeup but lacked the technique until Steward showed him how. Tommy had the fast twitch muscle fibres and the elasticity of muscle to give him the explosive snapping power that he had. The amount of those fast twitch fibres anyone has is genetically determined and this is the point where punchers are born not made.

It's triceps you want to work if you want to improve striking power, not biceps, which do little in this regard. Building the triceps can improve the 'explosiveness' of your punching. Working and improving the core strength of the body is important too. Training certain muscle groups will make anyone a harder puncher than they were before but will never, as Janitor alluded to, make anyone a true puncher unless they were born that way.