Strikeforce Signs Fedor To Multi-Fight Deal, M-1 To Co-Promote

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  1. curmudgeon

    curmudgeon Active Member Full Member

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    It works in boxing.
     
  2. curmudgeon

    curmudgeon Active Member Full Member

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    Gives a whole new old meaning to ground and pound. :tdh
     
  3. cdnboxing

    cdnboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Herring actually cant fight wrestlers at all. That is why the the UFC fed Herring to Lesnar. Jake O'brien did the exact same thing Lesnar did.

    And its Herrings inability to fight Wrestlers that the UFC fed him Cain Velasquez....another wrestler they are trying to build up. Herring pulled out and they gave Cain an even worse opponent in Kongo.

    UFC is not stupid. They knew Lesnar would smash right through Herring. They arent going to risk their cash cow.
     
  4. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can you not read? Kerr and Erikson aren't wrestlers? Aren't very similar to Lesnar in many ways?

    Herring doesn't have great wrestling at all, but he beat two huge strong wrestlers that are very much like Lesnar. The whole point was to test Lesnar and make sure he didn't make the mistakes that Erikson and Kerr did, that he could get through a guy who has shown he can be outwrestled and still beat great fighters. To show that Lesnar doesn't just wrestle.

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  5. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    One of the most badass moments in MMA history right there :good
     
  6. ryanty22

    ryanty22 VRWC Sledgehammer Full Member

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    the whole point is fedor signed with an inferior promotion and in three fights when strikeforce goes belly up. this whole will he or wont he sign with the ufc debate will start again.
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  7. LB3000

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    Even if the guaranteed money was the same when you add the cut from the ppv he would have easily made more in the UFC.

    From Dave Meltzer:

    "The UFC’s contract offer, Emelianenko would have received somewhere in the neighborhood of $3 million for a Lesnar fight in the event the fight was an unlikely flop on PPV. If the fight did similar numbers to last month’s record-setting UFC 100, Emelianenko likely would have received $6 million when pay-per-view bonuses were factored in. He was also offered a similar range of figures for future fights in the organization."
     
  8. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But in a non exclusive contract it also allows him to make big fights in japan the uc would not allow, the contract also lets him be the face of products such as the ea sports mma game, being a part owner of m1 if their events take off having links with dream and strikeforce there is money to be made there.
     
  9. LB3000

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    Fighting wise, regardless of where he fights I doubt he will make near the amount he could have potentially made in the UFC. You make a fair point about endorsement deals, but as someone pointed out in another thread was this really an issues? If it was, we would have probably heard about it. We all know the UFC can be restrictive when it comes to that kind of stuff but I'm sure he could have still done well.
     
  10. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Im just poiting out that through the ufc he might get more for fighting but he might be able to make just as much cash doing other things.
     
  11. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In terms of him having any kind of greatness. He has talent, no doubt. I just don't see him having a winning streak like other UFC champs, I think people overrate him from what I've seen. I think the likes of Gonzaga or even Crocop(yup) will give him fits much more than Shane Carwin or Cane will. Very unfortunate about Gonzaga loss but I still hold my opinion about him. Let me put it this way, I see many people winning over him, unlike the likes of Machida, Silva, GSP or BJ.

    Perhaps my dislike for the man makes me see the many downsides in the performance in his wins. Than again, I don't like BJ Penn much either and I don't see many "holes" in his fighting.
     
  12. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Listen, out of any organization UFC can make Fedor the richest. Call it illogical all you want but I'll keep repeating my point that for him promoting the sport in his own country is his top priority at this point in his career. Think of his passion for promoting and competing in Sambo. M-1 working Strikeforce can help with that much more than UFC working just with Fedor, I can't think of any valid argument against that in same way against my first point.
     
  13. cdnboxing

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    I can read, and im well aware of that fight. You've mentioned it before but it really has no relevance. Erikson is a GREAT wrestler and he SHOWED it against Herring by taking him down immediately, controlling him on the ground the ENTIRE fight and if it werent for the ref standup and being gassed he almost certainly would have pulled out a win.

    Herring got mauled err more like controlled against O'Brien and its almost a guarantee that he'd get the same thing done to Lesnar who is bigger and better. And Lesnar did, he outwrestled him and thats how he won.

    Herring is a nice little gatekeeper for the UFC. Hes a guy who cant fight wrestlers, is durable and tough and has a good resume. Hes fought the best. And all the UFC's best prospects are indeed wrestlers.

    Herring was handpicked for Lesnar. It was an easy win for Lesnar, the UFC knew it, thats why they made the fight. The UFC arent stupid.

    The fact people are arguing this is a head scratcher.
     
  14. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Best post you've ever written. There normally rubbish.. :think

    Have you seen what a Fedor did to a prime Herring? Seriously it was brutal. It took Lesnar 3 rounds to do that against a guy who clearly is on a downward slide. Even a shot to **** Nog beat him in the UFC. I mean lets be very real here Keith isnt the guy. Still a good win for Lesnar as a rookie but it must be put into a healthy perspective.
     
  15. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Thats nonsense. When PRIDE had the best heavyweights in the world going toe to toe no one gave a **** except for the hardcore MMA faithful. Now the fratboy cheerleaders are out in force championing the UFC as the sudden defacto standard for all that is MMA? Puhlease. Losses happen in MMA. Look at Randy Coutures record. He's still making change in the UFC despite having a record thats close to .500. Imagine that a bout between a guy who's had a handful of a fights and another guy with a near .500 record is the biggest grossing bout in UFC and possibly MMA history? Thats not great matchmaking thats great business!! And the fanboys always lap it up.
    But lets be real that fight was the equivalent of Fedor vs Fujita :lol:

    Fedor's legacy has already been written years ago. Great fighters loose thats the nature of the fight game. To think any less of them is incredibly fickle and just further proves the bubble gum mentality of all that is the UFC.