Struggling to place Roy Jones Jr...

Seamus · Sep 29, 2017

Loudon said: ↑

Roy didn't avoid those guys.

You are obviously just assuming that he did simply because he didn't fight them.

Dariusz:

Kerry Davis of HBO, worked alongside Roy's advisor, Brad Jacobs, to try and bring Dariusz to the U.S. to fight Roy. But Dariusz's promoter, Peter Kohl, wasn't willing to negotiate. In the end, Davis faxed over a proposal of a double header in the U.S. in the hope of introducing Dariusz to the U.S. public. This was planned due to Dariusz having told the media that he was willing to travel to the U.S. Yet the proposal was turned down flat without any attempt to discuss the specifics. Roy never avoided Dariusz, he just wasn't willing to go to Germany.

Hopkins:

Away from the cameras, HBO approached Hopkins and offered him $6m and the option of comeback fight on their network had he have lost. Yet he declined their offer by demanding $10m. So Roy didn't avoid him. It was Hopkins who clearly didn't want the fight.

Eubank:

Eubank has admitted on numerous occasions that he never chased the big named U.S. fighters of the early 90's. He was more than content to just defend his lightly regarded WBO belt on Sky and ITV in Britain. He said that fighting Roy in his prime would have been career suicide. He did however say that he would have been willing to have fought the likes of Roy, Toney and Nunn etc, if they'd have became his mandatories with the WBO. But although he may have been speaking the truth, Roy and those other guys were never even rated by the WBO, which meant it would never have been possible. Also, you can also follow the timelines of both fighters. If you were to do so, you'd realise that a fight was never viable. So Roy didn't avoid him at all.

Benn:

Benn desperately wanted to fight Roy in 1995. But Roy's handlers at the time, the Levin brothers, couldn't reach a compromise with Don King in order to make the fight. The Levin's and King had a deep dislike and distrust of each other, and King wanted future options on Roy which they weren't willing to accept. Also, Roy had an exclusive contract with HBO, whereas King's fighters fought on Showtime. Roy didn't avoid him.

McClellan:

Another one of King's fighters which made things problematic. But when King made the fight with Benn, he understimated and overlooked Benn, and was already looking to match Gerald up with Roy afterwards. And the rest is history. Roy didn't avoid him.

Nunn:

I've always maintained that Roy should have fought Nunn when he became Roy's mandatory at LHW in 1997. Roy messed him around. Instead of either agreeing to fight him or dropping his belt straight away, he kept changing his mind regarding the fight. He classed Nunn as being a high risk, low reward fight, where he found himself in a no-win position. In the end, he relinquished his belt in the hope of having a mega money fight at HW against James Douglas. And when his father wouldn't let him go through with it at the last moment, Roy then turned his attention towards a smaller HW in Evander Holyfield. He met with Evander in Atlanta early in 1998, but Evander turned down the proposal as he thought he was in a no-win position, just like how Roy had with regards to fighting Nunn. Personally, although I think Roy should have fought Nunn, I've never classed it as a duck. Because I know that Roy tried to fight Frankie Liles the previous year in 1996. Both HBO and Liles's ex-manager have confirmed that. So it would have been illogical to have pursued Liles in 1996, before ducking a faded Nunn the following year, before then going on to pursue huge money fights at HW.

To summarise: I'll give you Nunn, but you are wrong with regards to the other fighters that you've mentioned.

Again, you cannot accuse Roy of purposely avoiding those guys, just on the grounds that those fights never happened. That's ignorant.
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