Studying Paris-Judah in relation to Garcia-Judah

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  1. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    :lol: In my dreams, thanks!

    Appreciate the compliments man :good I think this is make or break for Judah, after having had so many title shots. If he loses decisively he might take steps towards calling it a day.
     
  2. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Not just Kellerman but the whole biased peice of **** HBO team...specially Lampley's and Lederman's pathetic old asses.
     
  4. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    :bump

    Imagine one left before the other though?

    "Bogo, how do you have it thr-"
    "Shut up Jim. Not today."

    Nah I'd probably have to pander to him.

    "116-112 to whoever has the highest punch stats."
     
  5. SweetHome_Bama

    SweetHome_Bama Loyal Member banned

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    Just don't see the stylistic and physical tools in Danny to get Judah in this fight.
    The fact that Holt and Campbell were able to survive and stay away from the left and that Morales was able to outbox and stun him in their first fight also leads me to believe that Zab will have a chance to hurt him late after building up a early points lead and making Garcia press to get back in the fight.

    I think it is when Garcia starts to press he will walk into a monster left hook from Zab and start to stumble, ironically enough I think it will be when he is in danger and Zab is trying to finish it that Zab will be in the most danger in the fight, because he will be in range and Danny is excellent in timing that left hook.
     
  6. Jquik

    Jquik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Triangle theories are ******ed

    styles make fights moron
     
  7. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I agree that Judah going for the kill would put him most in danger. He's not otherwise open for the left hook since a southpaw philly shell stance neutralizes it pretty well. But I think that if he hurts Garcia, it will be early. Judah tends to fade late even when sitting on a lead on points, Garcia tends to get sharper and closer to the mark as the rounds go on.

    Judah moved very well against Paris but the one thing that worried me was his flinching nervousness whenever Paris starting throwing leaping right hands. Garcia's not a dynamic pressure fighter but he's thrown that type of shot before with more accuracy.
     
  8. SweetHome_Bama

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    I don't think it was that Judah was nervous, it is just that Paris has pop and he had everything to lose by being reckless.

    I think Garcia doing that would show he was losing the fight and would lead to him eating heavy counters and getting TKO'd or KO'd just like Paris.

    If he is throwing that shot Judah is in great position.
     
  9. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you can use all the logic in the world but at the end of the day its zab judah your talking about. and so because he is so inconsistent in his fights you cant judge what he is going to do when he gets in the ring.

    1st 4 rds zab is at his best and garcia is slower starter. maybe zab can stop him early or at least build up a lead and win a decision. but i think garcia will stop him before 12, but im rooting for zab. but betting money would be on garcia !
     
  10. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They say Danny doesnt have a good right hand but he does. Its not great but its good. His right hand is actually what first rocked Morales bad in the rematch. I think he'll have success with the right hook. His jab ofcourse and left hook to the body. Judah always has a good chance vs anyone but when.he shows up hes good for 4 rds. Garcia will legitmately stop him.
     
  11. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Good breakdown. I think Garcia is better than Zab at this point and will find a way to win. I think Zab will let Garcia be too active. I've said in other threads I think stoppage, but at this moment I think Garcia by 116-112, 117-111 type scores.

    Look at their common opponent in Khan. I know that doesn't always mean much, but the difference is decisive there to the point it's noteworthy.
     
  12. Kampioni

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    All this talk is really getting me hyped for this fight.
    I think Zab has the right tools to outbox Danny but I dont know if he can withstand the pressure. I think the type of Sweet Pea Zab we saw in the Mabuza/Matthysse fight, who was more evasive, and waited for his openings would fair well against a fighter like Garcia. I hope he doesn't go in there thinking he's gonna out gun the kid.
     
  13. Superkalleb

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    In the first round, the fight against Cotto, Zab had a very good footwork. If he does something like this fight, Danny is going to have a lesson.
     
  14. Bogotazo

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    I actually think that kind of movement would be dangerous for Zab, because it makes him plant himself a bit. He was more upright against Paris and lighter on his feet and it worked wonders for him, setting up his jab and getting the angle for his counters. Garcia's not a suffocating pressure fighter and that gives Zab some room to set things up, footwork will be key for Zab.
     
  15. Prince.

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    Good breakdown. Very well done. Always think Zab can beat most of his opponents when he's switched on like he was for the Spinks 2 fight. He has the experience and knowledge to lay traps and capitalise. But seems like in the first 3 rounds Zab gives up and doesn't throw in return. Maybe he is looking for that perfect shot... but whilst he's doing that his opponent is ahead on the score-cards. This will be a tactical performance by both men... don't think it'll be high volume output. Both men don't throw shots just for the sake of it... patient attack always pays off. I never liked Zab's lazy ass jab. If the right hook lands on Zab's 'tickle me and i fall' body... it's game over.