btw the Mayweathers agree with me: Floyd after the marquez fight "I Could have thrown more combinations." Floyd sr: " Floyd needs to use the jab more"
Translation: "after ive been owned in a debate by a floyd fan i will hold persnal a grudge and talk **** every chance i get even if its off topic because im obviously still upset. and if u own me again i will put u on my ignore list, let u know about it, then become paranoid in a week and take u off ignore to see what u have to say." - Lance Uppercunt
Floyd fought Oscar at 154. If you think he lays against the ropes against Tito at 147 or154 and is unscathed you're just flat wrong. Oscar beat Felix's ass in the center of the ring, not laying against the ropes. And Floyd doesn't have the offensive skill that Oscar had in the center of the ring.
Going for body shots is actually the opposite of what you want to do when you are dominating a fighter like that. Considering that body shots particularly the left hook would leave Mayweather up to Mosley's right hand. And given that Mosley was backing up for much of the fight, thus giving Floyd very little opportunity for the left hook. Floyd broke down Judah to the body. Floyd landed some good body shots on Hatton and Marquez. Floyd was going to Ortiz body very early in the fight. you argument doesnt hold much weight to those who know boxing. :good
The high guard he adopted against Mosley meant Floyd was protected from Shane with the quickest available shots being punches to the head. (Please tell me I don't need to explain why?) Mayweather has offensive initiative, and lands over 40% of his punches, most of which are upstairs. If it isn't broke, don't fix it. Mosley didn't do anything to force Floyd to throw to the body, which would of meant Mayweather exposing himself more, increasing Mosley's chances of landing a heavy shot (It soon became apparent that was his only chance) You must know that it's more dangerous to punch to a fighters body? If nobody has been good enough to force Mayweather to work a constant body attack to slow them down, then surely that's a big + towards the skill of Floyd? Also, that jab to the body is beautiful, it's a punch I tell the kids I train to use as a 'gas guzzler' if that makes sense to you.
So Floyd could beat Tito by fighting the way Oscar did in the only rounds he clearly lost, and that cost him the fight? Ok.
Oscar came into the ring at 170 as stated by Floyd and Ellerbe. You do know fighters rehydrate dont you? Mayweather was at 150. Because he had just entered the welterweight division a few fights ago. As i said, if full fledged Junior Welter Oscar de La Hoya who just campaigned at middleweight couldnt hurt Floyd, why would Tito? Floyd doesnt have the offensive skill oscar does in the middle of the ring? Sorry thats just not true. Floyd is quicker in all facets, and a better boxer. Floyd would not need to keep the fight in the center of the ring. He could quite comfortably outbox Tito anywhere in the ring he wanted just like he does everyone else. Please name, what elite boxer Tito looked good against. Got dominated by Oscar, Hopkins and Winky. Doesnt bold well for Tito against Floyd.
Yes, because if you arent new to boxing and have never seen Floyd fight you would know he is excellent fighting off the backfoot whereas Oscar cant fight going backwards. Not well anyway.
I disagree with the bold. DLH had brilliant punching fluidity and power. Feints, accuracy, speed and pop. Mayweather is more selective and more accurate as a result, but he does not have the offensive arsenal of a prime De La Hoya.
To get Marquez out of the ring. Not because he wasnt winning a wide decision doing what he was doing. Mayweather is like Roy Jones and Hopkins. They throw combinations when they feel a fighter is close to going. Mayweather threw combinations and got Hatton out of there. He threw combinations against Ortiz as early as the 4th round believing the Ortiz was hurt from the last round. Mayweather threw 316 jabs vs Marquez and landed 185 of them. What you say doesnt hold up well to close scrutiny.
Obviously Oscar is the more devastating puncher. But in the middle of the ring Floyd is the better boxer. Oscar looked great against Trinidad, Vargas and Mosley. He never fought Winky or Forrest to truly see how skilled he was against an elite boxer. Ike Quartey gave him trouble. A shot Whitaker gave him trouble. Hell Felix Sturm made him look bad.
Oh I see. You're a nuthugger. Ok you're right. Floyd is perfect. Because Hopkins and Winky beat him Floyd definitly does.
Oscar did not look great against Vargas lol, even as an Oscar fan I admit that. His shoulder roll on the ropes was funny as ****.
You're an awful poster. You just listed 8 fighters, of who Floyd has fought one of and he was shot. Somehow this proves that Floyd is a better offensive fighter than the Oscar that stormed through the lower weight classes and ko'd Vargas at 154?