Styles make fights but matchups make box office

Hard evidence, you're right, but Mayweather has been managed and promoted better to the point where he consistently brings in more dollars than Pacquiao. Is that enough to justify a larger share of the purse? Probably but 60/40 is bogus considering Pac's achievements and the points you make above. The magic number is 51/49, Mayweather's ego is maintained and Pacquiao makes boatloads of money and we see the fight.

 

All of this is white noise. Manny is not giving floyd any of his money for this fight.

This isn't promoter money, this is fighter split purse. Floyd is demanding manny give him 10 million of money that would be his to fight him.

It's the ultimate slap in the face to someone who is bringing as much as to the table as he is.

 

wait wait i can get this....BOB ARUM AND FLOYD!....wait what about roach's ego?

 

floyd don't want this fight...full stop.

he'll do everything he can to make sure this fight doesn't happen.

he's a ****ing coward...always has been.

 

Man please. Your post is disingenuous at best. The hard evidence abounds, you just refuse to look at it. There are common opponents, A-sides versus B-sides, and similar levels. You just won't accept what the data is telling you.

Had you swapped fighters in those fights you would still end up with Mayweather with more buys. You also fail to mention that Mosley was the B side between Cotto and Mosley and Mayweather out sold Pac/Cotto!

Sure this fight will bring in more revenue than any other fight, but the question is what is the catalyst for this new revenue and what percentages should that catalyst be compensated. Time and time again Mayweather shows that he is the X factor that makes fights sell whether you want to see him knocked out or put on a clinic. It is about him. :deal

Manny is the one who doesn't want this fight. He canceled it before for the same reasons he is now accepting it. So what was the original reason for canceling it? He proved he can't sell a fight alone with Clottey. He lost his bargaining position.

 

Excellent post Hermit. All salient points.

 

I think there's enough evidence to support the claim that Mayweather sells more PPVs than Pacquiao. But I agree that Mayweather-Pacquiao will do such ridiculous numbers compared to anything else either guy could do that they should just agree to 50/50 and ****ing fight.

 

You should look up the word salient. None of what he said makes sense given the data.

 

Well I haven't heard anything from the FMJ camp. Disciplined as always. The only people yapping in the press are Team Pac. Undisciplined as always. So we don't know for sure if 60/40 is real.

I would agree with you that 60/40 could be extreme. Unless Pac can get 50/50 on the PPV numbers it would take some soul searching to go for that. IMHO, 55/45 and 50/50 on PPV and full USADA testing would be fair given the Clottey fiasco and Mosley triumph.

So my only defense of 60/40 is that we have not heard ANYTHING official from Team Mayweather or GBP. We have only heard from Team Pac and we all know how full of crap they are.

The only thing we can do is look at the numbers and and do a proportion equation:

Pac's earnings/Mayweather's earnings = X/100

You can do that same equation multiple ways with common opponents, chronological order, and similar status opponents to give you a baseline from which to evaluate if 60/40 is or any other split is reasonable.

I again agree with you that the "new revenue" is a great bargaining chip for Pac. Say what Mayweather wants to say about past earnings, Pac is going to bring a TON of new money to the table. IMHO, 50/50 working down is a better starting point than 60/40 working back. Though he fell off a bit, Pac still has pull.

(My bad if I came at you harsh man. You had a reasonable and solid reply. :good)

 

50/50. The fight needs to happen so it's got to be 50/50. There should be no problem.