"Styles make fights" is the most overused phrase in boxing.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by VG_Addict, Aug 14, 2022.

  1. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan KC ATR: 42-6 SR: 42-6 banned Full Member

    Aug 9, 2020
    Personally, as a general rule I'd rather take one to the head than the torso. I feel nauseous when I get hit in the stomach, a lot of the head punches I won't feel until later, thanks to the adrenaline.
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  2. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jun 13, 2012
    Ali used the ropes to lessen the force of Foreman's punches. If Ali took those body shots flush and without any ropes, I don't think he would have still been standing.
  3. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Creativity is knowing how to hide your sources Full Member

    Mar 5, 2012
    Disagree Mayweather vs Maidana is a good example may is leagues ahead of maidana in skill Mayorga vs Frost is another
  4. nurological

    nurological Boxing Addict Full Member

    May 25, 2012
    I think styles makes fights also means that it can make for a good fight as in the styles mesh well together.
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  5. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

    Oct 1, 2011
    If a fighter is a counter puncher, he will do better against a style of fighter that is offensive minded, being first, throwing a lot of punches. Now if the same fighter goes up against another counterpuncher, or a guy that doesn't engage, he may struggle or not look as good. I associate the term with boring fights.
  6. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

    Nov 9, 2015
    Boxer A - counter-puncher, 8/10 for skill
    Boxer B - counter-puncher, 7/10 for skill
    Boxer C - swarmer, 5/10 for skill

    Boxer A beats Boxer B and in the next fight loses to Boxer C:

    Styles make fights.

    But yeah I hate the phrase mainly for its overuse...
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  7. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

    May 16, 2010
    List the styles.. here's some of them
    Boxer puncher
    Box fighter.
    Out Boxer
    Back foot Boxer
    Brawler..plus more.
    Put two back foot boxers and them styles don't gel. They are both waiting for the other to come onto them and catch em coming in or counterpunch them. In that scenario the style doesn't gel.
    Most of the other styles work together in some degree or another but its how well they gel as to why the phrase gets used.
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  8. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jul 11, 2012
    … at the end of da day
  9. box33

    box33 Active Member Full Member

    Jul 25, 2021
    Yeah agree with your last one, first example comes to mind would be Mayweather vs Broner, man could you imagine the circling clinch action fest fight we would endure or even replace either of them with Rigondeaux similar results.
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  10. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Oct 5, 2009
    i think it is overused because it is mostly a true phrase

    obviously a short in words phrase leaves out nuance and other aspects like attributes, preparation, strategy, execution, and a myriad of other factors but when you get down to it the fights play out due to styles because if fights were chosen on paper you would never see upsets or other surprises. It is what makes sports great, the overachieving and the blown up narratives
  11. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

    Dec 18, 2021
    A load of shite tbh. Too many still don’t understand this, look at Teo/Salido vs Loma for an example. Or Tarver vs Roy. Or Maidana vs Floyd. All significantly inferior fighters winning/competitive because of styles
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  12. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

    Dec 18, 2021
    It does not mean that
  13. Loudon

    Loudon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Mar 7, 2012
    Absolute nonsense.

    The phrase actually needs far more consideration.

    How many people on here ignore a stylistic match up, to instead automatically favour the modern fighter in a fantasy match up?

    It happens all of the time.

    It happens with classic fantasy fights as well as many others.

    No, it doesn’t only apply to guys who have equal skills, or guys who are relatively close in skills.

    History has proven that.

    What are you talking about?

    Were Floyd Mayweather and Marcos Maidana relatively close in terms of skills?

    How about Thomas Hearns and Iran Barkley?
  14. Loudon

    Loudon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Mar 7, 2012
    Fighters don’t have to be close in skills for it to apply though.
  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum: Reject The New Normal Staff Member

    Nov 23, 2013
    I'm the exact opposite, I can take a punch to gut well, I get hit in the head the wrong way or even rattle my brain, I feel queasy.
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