Styles make fights-sugar shane is much harder opponent for floyd than manny pac

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  1. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    I keep hearing that Floyd is scared of Manny and that is the reason why he asked for a drug test...Basically what I am getting from most fans (pacquiao fans mainly) is that Floyd had it planned all along to use one reason or another to duck manny...THUS THE REASON THEY ALWAYS SAY "WELL IF MANNY AGREED THAN FLOYD WOULD HAVE JUST ASKED FOR SOMETHING ELSE."

    So now that everything is a done deal between Floyd and Pacquiao's respective opponents, how is that Floyd used the drug test to duck Manny?:huh Floyd did not ask for anything else beyond the drug test when it came to Shane? It stopped at the test...Some fans (Pac fans mainly) say Floyd would have just come up with something else...how and why?

    I mean if you get right down to it Manny is a much easier style for Floyd to pick apart in comparison with Shane...A Manny fight is worth 3-4 times as much as a Shane Mosley fight...

    Shane is everything that one expects (technically) to beat Floyd...He is a BIG WW with GOOD HANDSPEED, DECENT FOOTWORK, and HE KNOWS HOW TO BOX, plus he has a HARD PUNCH IN BOTH HANDS...Shane is LONGER than Floyd and he will OUTWEIGHT Floyd on fight night (probably)...

    Shane mixes it up..he has a boxer-puncher style and he thinks more...He is much more versatile than Manny as well..HE IS A LOT MORE DANGEROUS IN THE RING TOO..


    Manny is all right for Floyd IMO (technically)...Manny has AWESOME SPEED and GREAT POWER...GOOD FOOTWORK, DECENT BOXING SKILS but MORE OF A SWARMER, VERY HARD LEFT HAND-GOOD STRONG LEFT...

    Manny is a side to side fighter...he uses footwork and angles to land hard power punches (literally side stepping his opponent so much that he will be parallel to them while they are looking at where he used to be)...Has a PLAN A WHICH USUALLY PUTS EM AWAY...PLAN B NOT SO MUCH....

    TECHNICALLY, Shane is a much harder fight for Floyd than Manny. Floyd will not have the size advantage nor weight advantage against Shane and therefore he wont have the opportunity to walk Shane down(theoretically) and be the "bigger man." Floyd has no reach advantage either. Shane can use his height and keep Floyd at distance better than Manny could.

    PHYSICALLY Shane is bigger and I believe his punches are felt more than Pacquiao's...Shane is also more suited to be able to 'walk Floyd down'...With the size and length he would stand a much harder fight for Floyd physically..I also think he has a better chance at making floyd "fight"....Manny struggles with good counter punchers such as he did in the JMM fight...Mosley knows how to be a counter puncher and he has the size and strength to shrug off some of Floyd's punches and return punches while Floyd is exposed...Manny wouldnt have that benefit..

    DEBATE/DISCUSS

    Also, how is it that Floyd is "scared of Manny" when the guy he is fighting in Shane is bigger, stronger, technically more skilled, more schooled in the sport, and just imo a more versatile fighter than Manny? (MANNY IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD I ADMIT, BUT STYLE WISE HE DONT MATCH UP AS WELL AS SHANE DOES WITH FLOYD)..How is Floyd scared of Manny when the guy he fighting is worth A LOT LESS MONEY BUT A LOT MORE RISKY? DON'T ADD UP:huh
     
  2. Delroc

    Delroc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i honestly believe pacs style would cause floyd more problems with his youthfulness active punch output, angles and in and out style of fighting. as opposed to shanes dominant "iam in charge" style.
     
  3. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Shane sits back and waits..HE ISN'T ALL "COME FORWARD"...u mention angles...Not sure if you have ever boxed but ONE THING YOU NEVER DO IS GIVE YOUR OPPONENTS ANGLES AS IT MAKES FOR A VERY BIG ADVANTAGE..SEE HATTON-PAC AND DE LA HOYA-PAC....Floyd is a master at not giving his opponents angles...He knows how to stay a step ahead (literally) of his opponents...the footwork he has is untouched...Manny cant do much (imo) beyond his limits if he can't find angles...thats not to say he wouldn't make a competitive fight with Floyd because he is the best in the world and he would be competitive for anyone 147 down....im only saying he wont be able to land those hard shots on a quick fighter that moves and can make you pay for your mistakes....he wont get the angles (literally)..just a look on it..NICE POST THOUGH I RESPECT THAT:good
     
  4. Farmboxer

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    Pac! Didn't you read what Void, Sr. said?!

    Void, Sr. said that he did not want Void, Jr. to fight Pac. He said that right after Pac beat Cotto. He knows that Void can't beat Pac. He advised Void to not fight Pac!
     
  5. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    RACIST POSTERS THAT BASE WETHER THEY LIKE A FIGHTER OR NOT ON THEIR SKIN COLOR ARE NOT WELCOME IN HERE.

    THAT INCLUDES YOU LITTLE BUDDY;):good
     
  6. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    and one more thing..ur very stupid...

    Who gives a damn what floyd sr said..the freakin thread is about who is a harder style match up...

    This is why your an idiot poster...look at the question and look at your damn response...so what if floyd sr said that...so what if floyd jr said whatever he said to offend you...but true fans dont base opinions without logical facts...floyd sr can say what he wants..

    If u wanna use what the mayweathers are saying as a type of measure for your argument...than ill argue back that they have repeatedly given mosley praise and said he stands a better chance at beating floyd than a guy like manny...just throwin that out their..not trying to debate about it...
     
  7. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    SO TO THE PAC FANS AND THOSE WHO VOTED FOR PAC THUS FAR.

    How is it that FOR THE LAST 8 YEARS EVERYONE HAS SAID "YOU NEEDA BIG WW TO BEAT FLOYD..ONE WHO CAN GIVE HIM PROBLEMS WITH THEIR PHYSICAL ADVANTAGES"

    NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN MANNY PACQUIAO COME ALONG AND A STYLE LIKE THAT DOESN'T BEAT FLOYD AND ISNT AS HARD....TO THOSE WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A GYM...9-10 A BOXER BEATS A BRAWLER...TECHNICALLY THIS FIGHT WILL BE A MISMATCH...NOT SAYING THE PAC-MAYWEATHER FIGHT WOULD BE A "TOTAL MISMATCH"...BUT IF U LOOKIN AT SCHOOLING AND HOW EACH FIGHTER IS WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR TECH SKILLS..FLOYD IS ON ANOTHER LEVEL WITH PAC IN COMPARISON TO HOW HE IS WITH SHANE...
     
  8. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Of course you make this thread.. you are extremely bias toward floyd and probably think that he won't ever fight Pac.. So you need to make the case that a victory over Mosley is greater than a victory over pac would have been.
     
  9. Jeff Young

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    Pacquiao is much tougher at this point....shane is past his prime, i'm a minority, but I think mosley will beat shane easily.....Pacquiao/Mayweather will be competitive because of manny's workrate...
     
  10. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    fix!
     
  11. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Void is void. You do not like facts.
     
  12. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    ACTUALLY U WAY OFF AND SHOULD KEEP UR MOUTH SHUT BEFORE U POST UNLESS U KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT...

    AGAIN SO U PAC FANS DONT GO PSYCHO...MANNY PACQUIAO IS THE BEST FIGHTER IN THE WORLD TODAY AND HE PROVED IT NOV 14TH...with that said juss cuz i dont ride the muh fu34a nuts dont mean i dont recognize his greatness....and btw a victory over manny would accomplish more than a victory over Shane...that is as long as shane beats clottey..cut he lose to joshua and u know damn well every pac fan GONNA DELETE THERE ESB ACCT!:rofl
     
  13. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    pac's fast hands and feet!

    pac is much harder fight than shane for floyd... just watch the poll.
     
  14. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    get an education
     
  15. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    RACIST POSTERS ARE NOT WELCOME IN MY THREADS..IF U DONT LIKE A FIGHTER CUZ OF HIS SKIN COLOR THAN PLEASE DO NOT COME INTO MY THREADS..THANKS...:good IF YA'LL MAKE THREADS N U DONT WANT BLACK N PORTUGUESE PEOPLE IN THEIR THAN ILL STAY MY ASS OUT..I EXPECT THE SAME RESPECT...THANKS FARMBOXER:thumbsup

    NO OFFENSE MAN I JUST DONT ASSOCIATE WITH RACIST INDIVIDUALS