Just watched Rafael Herrera vs Ruben Olivares 2 and started thinking about fighters who gave more highly regarded fighters fits on more than one occasion. They didn't neccessarily win more than one but for example Harada Jofre Saddler Pep Norton Ali Randall Chavez Flores Gushiken Any other examples?
Duilio Loi beat Carlos Ortiz in two of their three bouts officially. According to reports, Ortiz may have even received a gift in his supposed win.
Jones Barrera is a good shout but Rose and Harada only fought once. I'm looking for more than one fight to take away the one off/bad night sort of scenario. I do think though that Lionel had a great style to beat Harada.
Curry and Starling, Kalambay and McCallum, Alvarez and Lopez. Would Turpin and Robinson qualify? Ray was up on the cards but still nearly lost due to the cut.
I do think Harada was made for Rose. Rose put on a clinic that night i mean an ATG performance but from what i heard your Dad beat him. Turpin and Ray is a great shout. Turpin gave him fits very bad stylisistic match up for Ray
Saddler and Pep ain't a great matchup for Pep but I think it was more of a past his prime thing rather than styles thing. Then again, could have been the roughing up thing on Saddler's part.
I agree of the fights I've seen. Like I said earlier Olivares and Herrera as well. Herrera had something that Olivares just couldn't deal with though he did come on strong in the last couple of rounds of the second fight. Previous to that he looked tentative and Herrera found it easy to back him up. Chucho Castillo was another problem for Olivares. Watched his cut eye stoppage over Olivares recently and he put on a beautiful display of counter punching over a peak Olivares.
Hey Al, off topic, I've just bought that book on Merseyside fighters (both volumes). Are they a good read?
Joe Medel is a good example against Harada. Soaked up Harada's shots in the first fight to come back and kayo him. I had it a lot closer than the judges in the second fight and think that with a bit more urgency in his approach could of won it. Harada was badly hurt in the 15th of that one IMO and was hanging on at the end.
Yes, great. Short biographies of all the old Merseyside fighters. My old fella is in the first one and funny enough teeto has just sent me the second one, just had a flick through so far. They're all there. We haven't got a bad boxing heritage.