Subriel Ahmed Matías Matthew vs. Jeremías Nicolás Ponce

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"El Orgullo de Maternillo aka Browny" or "Jere/The Marble"?

Poll closed Feb 25, 2023.
  1. Matías on points

    9.5%
  2. Matías by stoppage

    85.7%
  3. Draw

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  4. Ponce on points

    4.8%
  5. Ponce by stoppage

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    February twenty-fifth at the Minneapolis Armory, headlining on Showtime. The vacant IBF super lightweight title will be at stake, having been vacated in August by Josh Taylor after the by then fully unified champion made a fourth defense of this belt versus Jack Catterall last February.

    Ponce and Matías are ranked #1 and #2 respectively by the IBF at 140lbs. The former is undefeated while the latter is coming directly off avenging his only professional loss to date.

    They have one common opponent, in Ponce's southpaw countryman Jonathan José "El Potro" Eniz. Ponce got off the canvas in round three for a UD victory over Eniz, while Matías stopped him in 5 a year earlier.
     
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  2. chacal

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  3. lamarclark09

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    Oh man, I just wasted my vote.
     
  4. Flo_Raiden

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    I got Matías by stoppage in a brawl. Guy is a buzzsaw.
     
  5. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    Stylistically probably the best matchup you can get these days. It's a mirror matchup. True 50/50 fight. I'm really looking forward to this one. FOTY contender for sure.
     
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  6. CST80

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    Ponce is solid, I picked him to upset Mueller and then Ritson, long before anyone knew who he was, but... I did the same with Matias, when I picked him to upset Dadashev, I took notice of him around about the Daulis Prescott match. I've always been far more impressed with Matias, and without a doubt he'd have beaten Mueller senseless and actually stopped him and KO'd Ritson far quicker. Based on chin, skill set and firepower, I have a hard time seeing Matias lose this one.
     
  7. Flo_Raiden

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    This will be a great fight for sure, so excited for this match up. 140 has been getting a bit more interesting.
     
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  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    I frankly see it being violent and uncompetitive.

    Ponce is good, but has a habit of standing inert and flat-footed after throwing combos. This will spell doom. If you're going in with Browny not employing constant movement or immaculate defense otherwise, you had better have a cast iron chin or massive power comparable to Matías' own to keep his respect - or ideally both. Ponce has neither.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

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    Moneyline:

    Subriel Ahmed Matías -475
    Jeremías Nicolás Ponce +330
     
  10. Dangerwood84

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    I first noticed him against Dadashev, not easy for fighters to get over tragedies like that. His last few fights, hugely impressive as well. I think he"s the best 140 pounder, a bit too good to be true, to be honest. Ponce, I'm a fan also. Should be good.
     
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  11. Chiko_Tech

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    They guy not only had that tragedy on His mind. Matias was gunned and survived an attempt to be killed. Not only that a few months latter was jailed in a federal jail for over two years. You have to be mentally iron to endure that to keep you disciplined in the sport.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    Elvis Severino "The Dominican Kid" Rodríguez Mendoza vs. Joseph "Blessed Hands" Adorno and Jamal Ahammad "Shango" James vs. Alberto Ignacio "Beto" Palmetta in chief support.

    (there is another 10-rounder on the card, Qudratillo Xabibullo Ogli "The Punisher" Abduqaxorov vs. VeShawn "The Shark" Owens, that is currently not set to be televised unless it squeezes on due to quick finishes or something)
     
  13. CST80

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    Showtime has gotten to the point where they're pretty consistent in livestreaming the undercards on YouTube. And they will again this Saturday. What chance do you give your buddy? I don't think this win is out a reach for him.
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  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    VSO? Yeah could finally be his night (not sure he has a nationally televised W yet). After his early hype wore off the Uzbek has looked underwhelming - and like Owens hasn't fought since 2021, in the Crowley loss.

    I'm far more confident in picking our buddy Subriel, and to a lesser extent Shango. :deal:
     
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    How did he get shot 30-40 times??? How is he ****ing alive?