Subriel Matías: Browny The Ferocious Puerto Rican Honey Badger Buzzsaw-La Violencia Of Fajardo.

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  1. David B

    David B Nazi Russia lies. This is the only truth. Full Member

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    Threads like these are the best ones on the forum hands down.
    They are the ones who make it worth to log in and even after all these years , it still gives us goosebumps when we can read a piece like this.....preferably under an umbrella on a sunny terrace with a cask strength Port Charlotte and a smoothie for the wifey next to us.

    Always we discover something new , sometimes from a fighter we knew nothing about .
    Great job !
     
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  2. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. Full Member

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    Finally a rican I can get behind.
     
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  3. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Man Matias is a beast the more I see his fights. A really fun, entertaining fighter to watch. Just a relentless machine who only comes forward. Crude but also dangerous. The only flaw he has is his porous defense.

    Would love to see him match up with Ramirez/Taylor/Prograis at some point.
     
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  4. From.Russia

    From.Russia Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like how he marches forward and punches at the same time, lol
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Thank you David, I greatly appreciate the kind words, if I could :icon12: this comment I would.
     
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  6. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    I honestly hate being that guy, however, I’ll play the role for the moment. There are countless examples debunking your “quit gene” theory not just in boxing but also in common everyday scenarios throughout the islands tumultuous history. Although incredibly offensive I’ll just chop it up to youthful unawarness and simplistic extrapolation. If only my dad heard you blanket half his platoon in V-nam, many of which were Rican, as quitters when he watched them be the first in battle and the last to return.

    I can only hope you represent your culture with pride and class the next time you post egregious inaccuracies like the one shown above.

    Please don't ban this dude, although I doubt it was even remotely considered even with a handful of moderators in this thread.
     
  7. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    I like his gumption and drive but he gets tagged too much and it will likely be his downfall against top level competition. I'd manage my expectations in regards to his longevity in the sport.
     
  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    How about, knock off the sly little cracks against the mods with your every other post, or you might be the one getting banned.... don't think they've gone unnoticed. As far as the mods in question, I did the ****ing thread, so not sure how that would be applicable to me, same for Serge, who's a fan, as is IB, who lost his mod privileges but if he still was, it wouldn't be applicable. The Professor, Kirk and Rummy, it certainly doesn't apply to. So it kind of sounds like you're just talking out of your ass now doesn't it? In fact, aside from Miguel Cotto, who there's several reasons for people to dislike, I rarely see any of us criticizing Puerto Rican fighters. As far as things being allowed to slide, yeah... we're not going to go the way of puritanical fascists on here, we have good judgment, and know when someone is stepping over the line and when they aren't. The ones that step over the line, are banned on sight, the ones that make silly little cracks, it's a case by case basis depending on their intent.

    So how about, since I like you.... from here on out, you... don't be that guy that makes subtle little cracks and take subtle little jabs at the moderators, especially when they're completely uncalled for and inaccurate.
     
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  9. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Amazing, I was in no way shape or form questioning your judgement or delicately attacking you. This is actually the first time I've ever overtly mentioned a possible oversight in ages. Again, I don't want to be that guy but I shouldn't be questioned for passionately defending my kinfolk.

    Let's be categorically clear here, your role is well defined and I have no qualms with you or any other mod. I was disturbed by the comment, likely because I lack interaction with the dude and I can't define it as tacky comedy, scoffing or poor satirical humor. If I was going back and forth with you it's a different story since we regularly throw low blows at one another.

    All in all, calm down I've already told you that all that damn floridian sun is going to make you ill and it's catching up to you bruh.
     
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  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Fine, maybe it was a slight overreaction, but the mods on here have been taking quite a bit of shrapnel and unnecessary whining a little more than usual, so I guess it's the cumulative effect that's starting to annoy most of us. Although I was quite calm and composed when I wrote that. You should know by now when I'm actually pissed .:sisi1 But fair enough. That being said... it was probably this post that I had bobbling around in the back of my head when I wrote this response.
    Well... were we wrong? They did try to rob Taylor blind, if it weren't for the two KD's, he'd have been robbed.:ohno
     
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  11. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Ya think? I doubt that, maybe I'm being overly optimistic but Josh simply outclassed Ramirez the majority of the fight. I can't blame you for the distrust in the system but don't put that energy out there for the universe to digest. A bit of cynicism is healthy...sure, and I can support you expecting the worse; however, hoping the right thing will happen is just as powerful dude.

    If you build it they will come lol “Field of Dreams”
     
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  12. CST80

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    Without even a shadow of doubt they'd have robbed him. Even with Taylor outclassing him in almost every round, all three judges still managed to find 6 rounds each for Ramirez. So yeah, without the two KD's it would've been a draw, if you're being overly optimistic. However who's to say the judges would have given Taylor both of those rounds? So those two 10-8's for Taylor could easily swing 10-9 Ramirez on at least two of their score cards, and that's an MD for Ramirez, and let's be honest, all he'd need would need is one extra round each to get a 115-113x2 to get the win. I'd love to be the optimist, but I'm far too logical for that, when I keep making the same mistake, I stop making it, because I'm not insane.:sisi1
     
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  13. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Ehhh sanity is overrated and I started to adopt abstract realities instead of the tangible one because it's less disappointing. Roll one up, light it up and call me in the morning.

    As for the Taylor/Ram fight, you're probably spot on with the outcome if JT never scored the knockdowns. To be fair it was competitive, nevertheless, JT won knockdowns or not.
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

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    I think I would've had JT winning 7-5 without the knockdowns. Iirc, Ramirez was winning one of those two rounds outside of the droppage. Can't quite recall which one, though. Anywho, still a Taylor win. 116-110 is the closest I can really see for Ramirez in the real world - which is what I had. I felt generous giving him four.
     
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  15. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I had it 116-111, scoring the second even along with 3-4 and the last two. I think there were four rounds that I was pretty comfortable giving Ramirez, and maybe a couple more where I feel he made a case (even though Taylor made cases that were as good or better). In terms of punch stats they were pretty much even in terms of punches landed in a lot of rounds, it should be noted. 114-112 seems narrow, but by and large represents a scenario where Ramirez was given maximum benefit of doubt.

    Thing is, I think JT took his foot off the gas in the later rounds, at least in part by design after scoring the KD's. If he doesn't score the KD's, then I think there's a strong possibility that he finds an extra gear knowing that he needs a strong finish and closes in more convincing fashion. Or...Maybe Ramirez runs into something big later on in the fight.

    Either way, there were more scenarios which favored a close but clear Taylor win on the cards then there were for Ramirez. So, I'm not as bothered by the scorecards as some posters here.
     
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