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'Successful Fighter, Also A Student, Says Leonard' By Robert Edgren Lightweight Champion of the World Declares That the Successful Mitt Slinger Carefully Plays His Opponent Until He Has Found His Weakness; Italian Boxers Are the Hardest to Knock Out, He Says. "Study is the thing that makes successful fighters nowadays" said lightweight champion Benny Leonard. We were sitting in a room at the New York Athletic club talking over Bennys career. "Yes" - Benny went on - "the day of the boy with a strong back and a thick skull has gone by. You have to be a student to get to the top and stay there. I'm champion and any other lightweight could make a fortune by beating me. Yet nothing can induce the best of them to meet me in the ring. I'm in a funny position as a champion without a contender for his title. Tendler, Jackson and the others know I can beat them, but they don't know why. They think its because I have an awful 'kick.' They think I am bigger and stronger than I am. They don't realize that I can beat them because I'm a better student. "When I began fighting as a boy I used my legs at first instead of my brain, and I was called a feather duster boxer' because I only danced around and tapped. But I began to study, and I knocked out Mandot. I met Welsh three time. I learned a lot flghting Welsh. The third time I knew enough to beat him and win the title. I've gone on studying ever since. "You have to study three things to be a first class fighter. First, your opponent's mind and habit of thought: second, your own mental control of timing and movement, and last, physiology." Here Benny Leonard" stopped and thought for a moment, while I wondered where he got his supply of language, which was rather novel for a fighting man. "I learned about the importance of understanding physiology while I was in the army, said Benny. "While I was boxing instructor at Camp Upton, Lieut. Smith was instructor in Jiu Jitsu, which he learned In Japan. We worked together and he taught me Jiu Jitsu. I learned a lot of things about the nerves and the vital organs. "Do you know what a knockout is? its simply a shock to a nerve, carried to the brain. There are three knockout points on the head, each where nerves lie near the surface. For instance a straight blow on the end of the chin isn't a good knockout punch. But hit a man on either side of the chin, an inch or so back, or above the eye tooth, and you deliver a shock to a nerve connecting with the brain. The nerve telegraphs the brain that you're knocked out, and down you go. A Jiu Jitsu expert can pat a man out by digging at certain nerves with his thumb, it isn't necessary to deliver a smashing blow. "One of my favories is the blow that started Welsh to defeat. It'a a body blow delivered with a lifting twist. Sam Langford was a master of that lifting punch. It can be a short blow and not very hard, but it must lift or its no good. A lifting blow drives the intestines up against the heart, causing a weakening shock. The effect is only temporary, and isn't dangerous. "Men whom I have used that blow thought I was hitting a terrific punch, because It felt that way. But I wasn't. I never considered It anything but a weakening blow that would make an opponent leave an opening for a knockout punch and render him too slow to block it. "If I haven't had a chance to study an opponent before a fight I study him as well as I can in the early rounds. First his mental limits and then his physical power. I see how quickly he can think, how quick he is to defend and how quick to lead or counter. Then I look for his weak spot- A funny thing, some fellows you can't hurt with the standard knockout punches. I remember one welterweight I knocked out almost by accident, and learned something by it- I won't tell his name because It would be a tip off of his weak spot to other fighters. I hit him with every punch I had. His body was covered with muscles that made a solar plexus punch useless. "I couldn't catch him relaxed- He didn't seem to feel a punch on the chin or behind the ear. I accidentally caught him on the temple and he dropped. Now when I box a tough fellow whose nerves don't respond to the usual treatment, I tap around the skull until I find where I can hit him to make him dizzy. "Another thing I size up in a fighter is the matter of heredity. Different weak spots are characteristic of different races. The English for instance, often have bad teeth. You see a man with bad teeth in the ring, and you be fairly sure his body is his weakspot. I found the Italians the hardest to knock out. They can fight all the time and not tire. Their vitality, is astonishing. "Fellows like Johnny Dundee and Jack Sharkey are tireless and can stand an immense amount of work without going stale. That's because their ancestors for a thousand years back have been workers and have lived on plain food and little of it. A loaf of bread was a feast to those birds. "Now for myself. I study my self most of all, because after all. It's my machine that does the work. Every blow I use I've practiced thousands and thousands of times, studying every detail of delivery. I've put as much study into the delivering of a lifting right hand body punch as a man would need to learn Greek. I follow every inch of the blow and try to improve it in detail." "See! here," said Leonard, suddenly jumping up and Into boxing pose. "I deliver the blow like this. I have been feinting so my opponent doesn't see my position- my hand drops back to here and starts forward, my wrist turning and the knuckles driving upward at the finish. At the same time, my body goes forward, my head is turned a little. Which makes my body swing behind the blow and takes my chin out of the danger line. My leg straightens and my knee turns in and as I come up on my right toe my ankle turns out so that Im in a pigeon-toed position. I've done that slowly thousands of times, until I do it mechanically every time I use that blow. it gives the greatest driving power with the proper speed and snap. A blow that shocks has to be a snappy blow, not a big push." 'Six Inch Punch a Myth.' "NOW about those 'six inch punches' they say I use. Ive heard hundreds of people talk about my knocking fellows out with a six inch punch, the way they used to say Bob Fitzsimmons did. I never knocked out anybody with a short punch. I don't believe any other fighter ever did. " What I do is just this. I fool the eye. The speed of your arms in feinting counts. I feint rapidly with my arms when advanced, and suddenly I strike. The feinting is intended to fool my opponent so he won't know when the real blow starts, and if it fools him, it fools the spectators, too. You see me feinting and hitting, and what your eye catches is the general effect, because my arms are moving as fast as l can move them. "You dont know that when I struck the blow my elbow was drawn farther back that one time, and instead of striking six inches or a foot, I really drove my fist two feet or more. They say Dempsey uses short punches. Dempsey takes twice as long a drive as he seems to take and, as for Carpentler, I watched him beating Levlnsky, and he puts the punch into the finish of a blow that travels a yard or more." "Aren't you giving away your trade secrets?" I asked Benny. "Why, no." laughed the champion. "Some of mv rivals will read this -- if they think they understand it they may get courage enougn to give me a fight." Copyright, 1921, by The Bell Syndicate, Inc.