Sugar Ray Leonard: best P4P since Robinson, best welterweight ever, or neither??

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  1. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Snapshot of redrooster, upon hearing the Hagler - Leonard verdict

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    Not a happy camper

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  2. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:

    You ****** I was hoping you'd say that. Look at the pic in my avatar and see if you feel like repeating those words.
     
  3. JohnThomas1

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    Is that Robbie Sims?
     
  4. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    who shows up to watch Simms in training?
     
  5. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    I know what you mean. Not all wins are better than all losses. Kinda educated enough to know that, thanks very much. "Leonard collapsed at the final bell" I think you may well be the one smoking marijuana. First I knew about that. And read the part abouts "evens" again. I did go onto say "slight advantage to Leonard was he was natutally bigger". Don't you worry I'm not making a liar out of you. Who said that? I did disagree with you however. Get over it. Not everything you say is gospel, even though you think it is.
     
  6. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    No Stonehands I don't "know it". If I did I would kindly agree. What I can buy into is that Leonard may well have lost the fight had it when three extra rounds. But it's not written in stone that he would have been swiftly dispatched. I did explain that Leonard managed to have a second wind during the late stages of the fight, so who's to say that he couldn't again past 12 rounds?

    "1. A win isn't per se better than a loss. If Butterbean fought Holmes for only 4 rounds and won, that is less impressive than Holmes' gallant loss to Spinks in the rematch. Given the circumstances of the two Hagler fights, I don't see how anyone cannot have serious pause when making comparisons about which performance was more courageous or impressive. Intelligent minds may differ, but to just say Duran lost, end of story, tells me that someone smokes too much marijuana"

    Regarding the above. I'm afraid to say that the factors when weighing everything up on the scales, the loss Duran was handed to by Hagler simply doesn't merit being more impressive and better than Leonard's win. What happens inside the ring matters most IMO, but other factors need to be considered heavily. A win is better than a loss, that goes without saying. But I do know what you mean about circumstances and some exceptions. I guess we just disagree mate. Don't worry my man, your not a liar. I have covered that previously.
     
  7. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    MIA: Selfkill, John Thomas :yep :!:

    :hi: Adios amigos
     
  8. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    :yep Some people really take pride in their forum perfomances.

    Congraulations for proving once again that you have tunnel vision when it comes to Sugar Ray Leonard's career.
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    Oh come on, i didn't emabarrass you that much did i?

    Hmmmm, then again on closer inspection....

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  10. JohnThomas1

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    Never forget number 2 Sugar Ray Rooster

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  11. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hey there buddy. Love the false bravado act. Speaking of tunnel vision you ought to change your name to Self delusional. :yep

    Surely you remember everything that happened since yesterday afternoon-you've been curiously silent on matters and don't seem very anxious to catch up on our conversation. I've got all the evidence to back up what I've been saying while you've got what, nothing?
     
  12. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Come on Selfkill here's your chance to aire your grievances. Out with it.
     
  13. Holmes' Jab

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    Great to see that roosters obsession with Leonard still lives on. :p :bbb
     
  14. JohnThomas1

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    4 years minimum and counting :lol:
     
  15. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought you had killed yourself! Poor John Thomas didn't believe I had evidence of Hagler's sparring sessions with the Weaver Tripletts 3 weeks prior to the Leonard fight.

    It exists and only I was witness to it. I'd been toying with you all this time until last night John when I decided to end it. You'd been replying so frequently when all of a sudden you stopped altogether. :lol:

    What happened last night?

    This hasn't been a very good week starting out for the leonard fans.